Sheriff, BOC discuss 2009 salary deficit; $950,000 increase requested in 2010 budget
The blue lights can’t glow without the green — the money.
But how exactly will Madison County fund its law enforcement needs over the next year as revenues dwindle?
County commissioners have asked all constitutional officers and department heads to shave five percent off of their 2010 budgets. But even that probably won’t be enough, as revenues are projected to drop eight to 10 percent next year.
Sheriff Kip Thomas has requested an increase of $950,000 in his budget for next year. But the BOC and sheriff have yet to tackle that issue.
Instead, they have a 2009 matter to iron out first.
According to county records obtained at the BOC office, the sheriff’s department is $197,682 over budget in 2009 on salaries — $137,945 for the sheriff’s department, $57,803 for the jail and $1,934 for the drug awareness program. However, figures from the sheriff’s department are different, reflecting a $181,736 salary deficit.
Either way, the money is short.
The good news is that the county’s overall salary expenses are slightly under budget for 2009, with a net surplus of $13,439. The road department shows the biggest salary savings, coming in $98,985 under budget, with EMS following at $35,795.
Exactly why the sheriff’s department is over budget for 2009 was the subject of considerable discussion recently, but the BOC never came to any firm resolution, ultimately agreeing that the matter needed more research.
Commissioner Mike Youngblood suggested that the problems appear to stem from failures by former BOC finance employees to account for funding changes.
“Numbers were put in front of us and we had enough confidence and trust in the people who put them in front of us that they were right,” said Youngblood. “Evidently they weren’t, cause those people are gone. I think whatever we have to do to straighten it out, the board will. Public safety is number one.”
The group did not discuss the broader question — what next? How will the county cover the shortfall? That matter will be addressed at a later date, though no meetings have been set.
Sheriff Thomas raised the funding issue with commissioners, saying that the salary deficit was an inherited budgeting problem, something carried over from 2008. He passed out a timeline of events, saying that as of Jan. 1 this year, when he took over office, his department was already $181,736 over budget on salaries.
According to county records at the BOC office, the sheriff’s department was over budget in 2008 by $156,990, but the jail was under budget by $44,008, leaving an overall year-end deficit of $112,982 for the sheriff’s department and jail.
Thomas suggested that the 2009 budgeting problems originated when the BOC approved raises for deputies back in February 2008, adding that no budget amendment was made to account for those raises in the 2009 budget.
Former Sheriff Clayton Lowe requested $1,087,000 for department salaries for 2009, but the BOC decided to keep the line item for department salaries steady at $950,554.
Thomas suggested that the difference in requested versus approved funds showed that the raises approved by the BOC in February last year were not accounted for in the 2009 budget.
While the commissioners kept wages steady in 2009, the board did approve an increase in sheriff’s department salaries, from $827,769 to $950,554, between 2007 and 2008.
The board had agreed to implement raises suggested in a wage study by the Carl Vinson Institute — not just for sheriff’s employees, but other county workers, too. The overall increase in county wages was expected to cost $360,000 and occur in two phases.
But last February, deputies appeared before the commissioners, noting that the raises had, in effect, reduced their pay, since the raises had been based on 80-hour pay periods, rather than 84-hour periods that they actually work.
The board agreed to adjust the deputies’ pay to account for the mistake. No specific numbers were given at the Feb. 20, 2008, meeting for the cost of the adjustment, but former county personnel coordinator Connie Riley noted at that meeting that the cost of the increases could be covered with funds from unfilled deputies’ positions.
Commission chairman Anthony Dove said it doesn’t appear that those positions were filled. He said Friday that he is unsure how the salary discrepancies appeared in this year’s sheriff’s department budget. Dove said he is trying to review all the numbers and he showed reluctance to assign blame at this point.
“From what I can determine, the raise in 2008 was supposed to be absorbed in last year’s budget,” said Dove. “It has yet to be determined why it hasn’t been for last year or this year.”
PROPOSED 2010 BUDGET
While the 2009 salary shortfall will certainly be a source of upcoming budget discussions, the BOC must also determine what to do with the sheriff’s budget in 2010. The group did not discuss next year’s budget at Thursday’s meeting.
But Thomas has requested a total increase of $952,841, with a boost of $624,013 — up from $1.5 to $2.2 million — for the sheriff’s department and an increase of $328,828 for the jail — up from $1.3 million to $1.6 million.
Thomas is requesting four new positions in the sheriff’s department, with the proposed salary line item for law enforcement increasing from $950,554 to $1,262,206. He is also requesting an additional $39,000 in overtime for the department an extra $30,000 for radars and cameras. Thomas also has included $312,000 for “capital outlay” in the sheriff’s department budget for patrol cars.
The sheriff has requested six new detention officer positions, with the jail staff budget potentially increasing by $234,291, with an additional $15,000 requested for overtime. Thomas has also requested an increase of $20,000 for housing prisoners out of the county.
No dates have been set for BOC hearings on the 2010 budget.
County commissioners have asked all constitutional officers and department heads to shave five percent off of their 2010 budgets. But even that probably won’t be enough, as revenues are projected to drop eight to 10 percent next year.
Sheriff Kip Thomas has requested an increase of $950,000 in his budget for next year. But the BOC and sheriff have yet to tackle that issue.
Instead, they have a 2009 matter to iron out first.
According to county records obtained at the BOC office, the sheriff’s department is $197,682 over budget in 2009 on salaries — $137,945 for the sheriff’s department, $57,803 for the jail and $1,934 for the drug awareness program. However, figures from the sheriff’s department are different, reflecting a $181,736 salary deficit.
Either way, the money is short.
The good news is that the county’s overall salary expenses are slightly under budget for 2009, with a net surplus of $13,439. The road department shows the biggest salary savings, coming in $98,985 under budget, with EMS following at $35,795.
Exactly why the sheriff’s department is over budget for 2009 was the subject of considerable discussion recently, but the BOC never came to any firm resolution, ultimately agreeing that the matter needed more research.
Commissioner Mike Youngblood suggested that the problems appear to stem from failures by former BOC finance employees to account for funding changes.
“Numbers were put in front of us and we had enough confidence and trust in the people who put them in front of us that they were right,” said Youngblood. “Evidently they weren’t, cause those people are gone. I think whatever we have to do to straighten it out, the board will. Public safety is number one.”
The group did not discuss the broader question — what next? How will the county cover the shortfall? That matter will be addressed at a later date, though no meetings have been set.
Sheriff Thomas raised the funding issue with commissioners, saying that the salary deficit was an inherited budgeting problem, something carried over from 2008. He passed out a timeline of events, saying that as of Jan. 1 this year, when he took over office, his department was already $181,736 over budget on salaries.
According to county records at the BOC office, the sheriff’s department was over budget in 2008 by $156,990, but the jail was under budget by $44,008, leaving an overall year-end deficit of $112,982 for the sheriff’s department and jail.
Thomas suggested that the 2009 budgeting problems originated when the BOC approved raises for deputies back in February 2008, adding that no budget amendment was made to account for those raises in the 2009 budget.
Former Sheriff Clayton Lowe requested $1,087,000 for department salaries for 2009, but the BOC decided to keep the line item for department salaries steady at $950,554.
Thomas suggested that the difference in requested versus approved funds showed that the raises approved by the BOC in February last year were not accounted for in the 2009 budget.
While the commissioners kept wages steady in 2009, the board did approve an increase in sheriff’s department salaries, from $827,769 to $950,554, between 2007 and 2008.
The board had agreed to implement raises suggested in a wage study by the Carl Vinson Institute — not just for sheriff’s employees, but other county workers, too. The overall increase in county wages was expected to cost $360,000 and occur in two phases.
But last February, deputies appeared before the commissioners, noting that the raises had, in effect, reduced their pay, since the raises had been based on 80-hour pay periods, rather than 84-hour periods that they actually work.
The board agreed to adjust the deputies’ pay to account for the mistake. No specific numbers were given at the Feb. 20, 2008, meeting for the cost of the adjustment, but former county personnel coordinator Connie Riley noted at that meeting that the cost of the increases could be covered with funds from unfilled deputies’ positions.
Commission chairman Anthony Dove said it doesn’t appear that those positions were filled. He said Friday that he is unsure how the salary discrepancies appeared in this year’s sheriff’s department budget. Dove said he is trying to review all the numbers and he showed reluctance to assign blame at this point.
“From what I can determine, the raise in 2008 was supposed to be absorbed in last year’s budget,” said Dove. “It has yet to be determined why it hasn’t been for last year or this year.”
PROPOSED 2010 BUDGET
While the 2009 salary shortfall will certainly be a source of upcoming budget discussions, the BOC must also determine what to do with the sheriff’s budget in 2010. The group did not discuss next year’s budget at Thursday’s meeting.
But Thomas has requested a total increase of $952,841, with a boost of $624,013 — up from $1.5 to $2.2 million — for the sheriff’s department and an increase of $328,828 for the jail — up from $1.3 million to $1.6 million.
Thomas is requesting four new positions in the sheriff’s department, with the proposed salary line item for law enforcement increasing from $950,554 to $1,262,206. He is also requesting an additional $39,000 in overtime for the department an extra $30,000 for radars and cameras. Thomas also has included $312,000 for “capital outlay” in the sheriff’s department budget for patrol cars.
The sheriff has requested six new detention officer positions, with the jail staff budget potentially increasing by $234,291, with an additional $15,000 requested for overtime. Thomas has also requested an increase of $20,000 for housing prisoners out of the county.
No dates have been set for BOC hearings on the 2010 budget.
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Also the reason the road Dept.came in $98,985. under budget is because they don't fix the roads the way they should be fixed? They patch the Rds. to get by.There was almost $100,000.more they could have used to improve the roads but they didn't. They say they don't have no money to fix the roads but now we know THEY JUST DON'T WANT TOO.
and your name always comes up with some off the wall
comment, do you have a life? I see your non-sense
in other counties as well, why don't you find something
to do more productive then act out and be just plain
stupid! For your info, I voted for Lowe and have yet
to support the new elected sheriff so before you pop
off at your loud mouth read what you say and you to will
see how stupid you sound. All you do is dis-agree with
everyone on the blogs, am I the only one that feels this way?
GET REAL..............
The Sheriffs office should be like the President of the United States he should only be allowed to serve 8 years in office? Look at the Jackson County Sheriff Stan Evans he's been in office over 25 years and that's to long.
Not one person feels sorry for you, stop trying to get
them too being disabled is your crutch to drain the
gov't of our hard earned money, before you spit out
non-sense, today is my day off so I can post and know
that I have job to return to tomorrow so I can work
to pay your sorry .....
to let the gov't pay you to sit at home, this is a prime
example of how welfare is abused, you are a poor excuse
of a resident for MC and you keep telling folks they
make a pill for that, look at yourself, they make jobs
in which many dis-abled folks work at and make money
for themselves and don't depend on welfare and foodstamps
I bet you eat much better than most of us. You make
me sick playing the feel sorry for me card, you are
a low life!
As far as looking for a hand out? I don't want nothing from nobody. As far as my Social Security check, that is MY money I paid that in all the years I worked so if I did get disabled I could draw it.
Next time before you call someone a sorry low life you need to find out what he is all about. Until then you keep your name calling to your self.
I still have alot of problems from the wreck but I don't want you to feel sorry for me. I made a mistake and I have to live with it not you.
The Sheriff 25 years ago could have started something that's been going on all this time and now they would blame Kip Thomas? It don't matter who starts what the man in office when they start fussing about it gets blamed.
With all I went through with my wreck being in a coma for over 8 weeks and being in a wheel chair for about 2 years? I had to learn to walk again,talk again, I had to learn to do everything again and as bad as some of these people get on my nerves I wouldn't wish what happen to me on anyone.
The reason(s) that Kip Thomas has fewer road deputies is because Kip chose to restructure the department that way!!
1.He took road deputies that answered calls & created a "traffic unit" that ONLY issues tickets. This removed 1 deputy per shift.
2.He deleted the civil papers officers position adding that responsibility to the road deputies that were short handed & overburdened to start with.
3.This so he could promote a LT. that has pending lawsuit(s) & many complaints to drug investigator.
4.He fired a 19yr. veteran drug investigator and promoted a road deputy *(18.32)approx.$5+ huge raise* w/no leadership position, less experience or no special training to Lead drug investigator. Which recently was suspended WITH pay. Kip put him back on the job.
5.He fired old administration deputies for personal vendettas & campaign promises to bring back 2 previously fired deputies...
6.One w/5 yrs. experience & heavy handed to make him a SGT. & pay him (16.48)$1+/more then some w/2x the time/experience.
7.The other w/5yrs. jail experience as a LT. @16.34/hr.
8.He hired deputies w/promises that he renigged on so they've already left.
9.He created a CPT over the road position to make his OC deputy administration like he promised since he doesn't like calls & reports. Plus a take home car to Athens.
10.Put the 2nd in command position from a CPT to MAJ--raise. Plus a take home car to Oconee Co. If the old CPT'S were over the road w/a jail admin. over the jail, then what does "Major Burns" do???? There's a new CPT over the road & an overpaid jail admin so......What is Kip paying him to do???
11.Wasted taxpayer money---
Outrageous wages, unnecessary gas, mileage and maintenance on county vehicles, cell phones for secretaries when road deputies have always paid for their own, unnecessary pressure washing the building w-landscaping. Yes, free inmate labor but taxpayers paid for the plants,etc,etc,etc.
Does this give you a clue where his 2009 budget went? Obviously, Madison Co. voters are more knowledgeable than what you're willing to admit. Research!Try the Journal & ABH archives to start. At least have your stuff straight if you're going to be Kips head cheerleader.
county they would then find the money to fund the
offices by arresting the people for drugs, speeding,
and such. I know of a street where they could make a
fortune in tickets. Motorcycles for sure. The road is
25-35 mph per hour and I see cars / motorcycles going
at least 60-100 every night. Why dont you folks check
out "Mize Road and D Williams Road", then you will have
the money for your budget.
Thank you
Heck I've ask for a new Corvette for my birthday for the last 20 years and haven't got it yet? But it never hurts to ask.