School officer approved at MCHS

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Madison County High School will have an in-house deputy next year.

The Madison County Board of Education (BOE) approved an agreement with the Madison County Sheriff’s Office March 9 for a school resource officer (SRO) after being presented with the proposal in February.

The agreement underwent minor changes after being reviewed by BOE members and the BOE’s legal counsel for the past month.

“The substance of this agreement hasn’t changed,” Madison County Schools Superintendent Mitch McGhee said.

Madison County High School has been interested for several years in an on-campus officer but the school system hasn’t had the funding for it.

But under this agreement, the sheriff’s office will cover the SRO’s salary. The Madison County School System will furnish the officer with an office.

The agreement calls for one-year terms that can be renewed by either party at the end of each year.

The officer will have to undergo training to become certified but should ready by July 1.

“It still seems like a very positive thing for us and the school system, and I believe it will be for the sheriff’s office as well,” McGhee said, before recommending that the BOE approve the agreement.

McGhee said it’s his understanding that SRO would be equipped like any other officer, which means the SRO will carry a gun.

“There are no restrictions, and I believe he’ll be a fully-outfitted deputy,” McGhee said. “

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#1 Anonymous on 03/16/10 at 02:03 AM [Reply]

School is only in session 180 days a year.

What will the "officer" do when school is not in session?

Why will she only be assigned to the high school? Shouldn't she be working all the schools? Shouldn't we put an officer in each school?

She can resolve food fights and lovers' spats in the high school, spit-ball throwers in the middle school, and assist children in proper aiming and hitting the toilet in the elementary schools.

Too much government in our lives. I understand this is part of Obama's public school indoctrination program. Ironic since Kip Thomas ran as a Republican. Guess he is Republican in name only. Certainly not conservative - politically or fiscally.

#1.1 Anonymous on 03/17/10 at 12:24 PM [Reply]

YOU ARE AN IDIOT!

#1.1.1 to 1.1 author on 03/17/10 at 01:56 PM [Reply]

first can not believe supporting Ms Anonymous. I think SRO are misuse of funds. why can not PE teacher or Administrator do this as they did in my high school where student body 2500+. SURELY someone in the school system can qualify for gun permit / qualify for using such weapon / get taser etc.

that said problem also is so call non level playing field where say popular student held to less standard than kid no so popular or whose parents are not well connected or well connected but politically non popular as maybe support charter schools.

I vote for school present employee to fill this position. If level issue of SRO being a "true police officer" lets get laws change where such teacher same protection as SRO.

My view. My view teachers already paid to much / to many benefits.

#1.2 MC Parent on 03/17/10 at 02:36 PM [Reply]

Interesting question. What will she do when school is out? Will she get those days off with pay, too?

#1.3 1988 on 03/23/10 at 01:47 PM [Reply]

It's not a she ! It's going to be a male officer. A woman can not handle these kids now days.

#1.4 MCHS Student on 03/25/10 at 09:44 PM [Reply]

In high school there are more than just "food fights and lovers' spats". There are drugs, alcohol, fights, vandelism, wrecks, skipping, etc. This is truly needed. With 1400+ students, four administrators (one at the freshman Academy, two assis. at main, and principal) can't handle it. They do more than just break up fights. It is hard enough to deal with their day-today agenda...much less dealing with dumb adolescents. This resource officer is needed at MCHS and possibly one at MCMS. We are not the small town school anymore.

#2 anon on 03/18/10 at 08:09 AM [Reply]

It's not a she but a he ! And I have to agree with 1.1 author teachers are paid way too much and too many benefits !

#2.1 Anonymous on 03/18/10 at 11:32 AM [Reply]

This is a job for which a female officer is at least as qualified as a male. This is a woman's job.

#2.1.1 anon on 03/18/10 at 11:50 AM [Reply]

Not trying to argue that a woman can't do the job I am just telling you that a man already has this job and the car to go with it.

#2.1.1.1 Anonymous on 03/18/10 at 12:13 PM [Reply]

What kind of man would want a woman's job? He needs to grow a pair and get a real job.

#2.1.1.1.1 anonymous on 03/18/10 at 03:23 PM [Reply]

Not exactly a womans job !!!! Sounds like you need to grow a pair and get a real job.

#2.1.1.1.1.1 Anonymous on 03/18/10 at 10:34 PM [Reply]

Babysitting children is more of a woman's job. A female officer is needed for this position. Maybe they found an effeminate officer. That will do.

#2.1.1.1.1.1.1 Annoyed on 03/25/10 at 09:47 PM [Reply]

Can you not read...the article said HE. And he will be doing more than just babysitting.

#2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Anonymous on 03/25/10 at 10:16 PM [Reply]

Can YOU not read? I said they must have found an effeminate officer and that would for babysitting.

#2.1.2 Agree on 03/26/10 at 02:01 PM [Reply]

Baby sitter job is what this is. If parents would raise
their children better the school would not need this non sense.
The fault is the parents not the teachers etc..

#2.1.2.1 Sardonic Veracity on 03/26/10 at 02:32 PM [Reply]

My grandma told me that if ifs and buts were candy and nuts we would all have a pretty good Christmas.

#3 Anonymous on 03/18/10 at 05:28 PM [Reply]

In reference to the comment about "Teachers are paid way too much and too many benefits !", the two posters that thought that must be crazy! Teachers are having to play the role of educator AND babysitter, and if anything they should make more. To claim that they are making too much and receive too many benefits is beyond idiotic.

#3.1 MC taxpayor on 03/19/10 at 08:41 AM [Reply]

Anonymous sometimes I agree with you but today your blinders are on. Teachers get more holidays and benefits than most in civilian jobs such as at Lockheed. I often see them seemingly relaxing a good bit. Meeting teachers or teacher conferences are interesting: not the teachers or quality I knew in the 60s-70s and many of those retired teachers may think in similar vain. I also think teaching not giving male students the same attention or teaching time that female students get now and even Newsweek wrote about this in last several years. IF students CAN NOT respect teachers ( people who use level playing field for all ) and even hormonally charged teenagers realize a non level playing field their view is well do bare minimum to get by and let system take care of them as if try harder will not matter and rewards not greater. MY view. But Anonymous time is coming where national debt may let school board decide to hire teachers from England for half what we are paying now. Those teachers let go can become Wal Mart greeters and learn from the masses.

#3.1.1 anonymous on 03/19/10 at 03:05 PM [Reply]

Teachers should be ashamed making $50,000 --- over $100,000 a year and sending the bull crap home for the parents to do !!!! DO YOUR JOBS and GET OFF YOUR LAZY A$$E$ if you want to make the big bucks do the job !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#3.1.1.1 dolface546 on 03/23/10 at 07:44 AM [Reply]

Anonymous, most teachers don't make that and most aren't in it for the big bucks, they are there to help kids.

#3.1.1.1.1 Disagree with Dolface on 03/24/10 at 01:48 PM [Reply]

wrong dolface : wrong : teacher union is nothing more than a organized labor union.

#3.1.1.1.1.1 dolface546 on 03/25/10 at 10:34 AM [Reply]

This is a non union state, look it up.

#3.1.1.1.1.1.1 Disagree with dolface on 03/25/10 at 11:49 AM [Reply]

At last count, there are more than 40,000 GAE members across the state. Seems to be organized to me. Wonder how many belong to NEA groups.

#3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Sardonic Veracity on 03/26/10 at 02:35 PM [Reply]

The GAE is an association, not a union. How many members does PAGE have? (That's another professional association.) Just because it's organized doesn't make it a "union."

#3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 anonymous on 03/26/10 at 02:50 PM [Reply]

sounds like a voting block to me : that to me close to union as you get your demands. my view. bet many think smae

#4 SardonicVeracity on 03/24/10 at 10:52 AM [Reply]

Teachers don't make $100,000 especially in Madison County. Even if they did, that is hardly "big bucks." It is more of a fair salary for a college educated person. Those who make over 45,000 have either higher degrees or years of experience or both. If you had that in your job, wouldn't you expect to be compensated? For the education level, teachers are fairly low on the compensation scale.

When you say, "...sending the bull crap home for the parents to do." Do you actually mean "... stop asking parents to take an active role in their child's education?"

The teacher's role is to do what you're complaining about. To get the children and the parents involved and to help make the child ready for adulthood. Are the "teachers from England" going to do that for a better price?

MCHS probably doen't "need' a SRO. To say, though, that it is a "wonan's job" or that a SRO babysits children is to be ignorant of the position. The SRO is an actual officer who deserves respect... just like a rational person would respect any officer of the law. (No mater how you feel about the current Sherrif)

I delayed commenting on this thread because most of the previous posts have been so asinine. I couldn't resist any longer.

#4.1 MC taxpayor on 03/24/10 at 01:44 PM [Reply]

I assume you would have no objections to publishing school salaries / specific teacher benefits such as 1st grade teacher makes X dollars get such and such health insurance, total vacation days, allowed sick days and personal days, pension benefits, life insurance and so forth. By the way good person $100,000 big bucks to many many persons. Correct me but often benefits equal 33%+++ of salary for teachers or at least that is what I saw back in 2000-2001 period.

Sardonic : level playing field needed : would like students to grade teachers excluding bottom 10% and top 5%. Need to be sent to outside system for calculation review. No personal comments. To say parents not involved is tactic used in 1960's and before and a teacher once told me " can drive them crazy and make them quite by noting parents not doing their job". Problem that phrase or crying wolf no longer works. Often the brightest students with better emotional/hustle skills than so call IQ skills get turned off and decide without level playing field will just do bare minimum or lowest common denominator production as why do more based on what they see as outcomes. Maybe why less boys attending college than girls in many schools.

Economic capacity to maintain present system at crisis point good person. If tax more just NOT THEIR even if you take view 100,000 grand + year not big bucks even with 2 income families not many in MC making this. Maybe all who post on this board including myself need to get out more and see what is occurring in our community.

#4.1.1 MC person on 03/24/10 at 04:48 PM [Reply]

They pay teachers in England and India far far less. Less benefits. That is why they come to USA. Many private schools have such teachers and they do very good job.

#4.1.2 OpenGov on 03/24/10 at 09:01 PM [Reply]

Teacher salaries are open records, they are published, and they are very easily obtained. Visit this link on the State of Georgia website:

http://www.open.georgia.gov/sta/viewMain.aud#

Click "Person"
Then select the year you want and check the dot next to "Local Boards of Education."

Then type the person's last name, and there you go. All the details about any teacher, or virtually any public employee's or contractor's pay or reimbursements.

#4.1.2.1 Can not get salary on 03/26/10 at 10:24 AM [Reply]

I tried to open site too. No go. Will let my kid try. Person who knows how to do this why not get say Principal at HS and get that data : delete name : but post that data for us.

#4.1.2.1.1 anonomyous on 03/26/10 at 01:22 PM [Reply]

Do teachers pay social security taxes ?

#4.1.2.1.1.1 AUSTIN on 03/26/10 at 02:43 PM [Reply]

Seems they "PLAY ON COMPUTERS THOUGH" whether they pay
taxes or not who know?

#4.1.2.2 Sardonic Veracity on 04/01/10 at 12:01 PM [Reply]

I went to the site you listed and found that the athletic director at MCHS made almost $94 thousand in 2009, a teacher with a doctorate degree and several years of experience makes 20 thousand less at a little under 74 thousand and a second year teacher at the middle school made around 37.5 thousand.

Although it doesn't seem to pay off in results, it is easy to see where the priorities lie.

Unfortunately, I didn't find a likely candidate that made over 100K. I even checked one teacher who had over 30 years of experience and every degree besides a doctorate (Bachelor, Master, Specialist, National Board Certification) and that teacher only made $74,848.14.

Oh, and about that head football coach who made almost 95K... it may be of some interest that the defensive coordinator made only 59 and change... and is a heck of a good teacher.

#4.1.2.2.1 Anonomyous on 04/01/10 at 01:49 PM [Reply]

Did you find out their pension benefits / med coverage and all plus vacation and how many days off in summer ? If take salary and add 1/3 general rule as benefits then even 37000 buck range quite good. Guess if you defend your country : and operate heavy equipment or work for electric co-op with degree you are supposed to make less. I think not. Bet if paper ran vote on if teacher pay to much or right or too little will surprise people that most will think too much. PE / Football : lets have charter schools and no sports.

#4.2 anonymous on 03/25/10 at 03:13 PM [Reply]

Do your research before you open your mouth teachers right here in Madison County make that kind of money !!!! Go to opengeorgia.gov and you will see all salaries are open record for any school or college in Georgia. And as for the bull crap it is called HOMEWORK for you that can't understand it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If the teachers would teach these kids they would not send this home for the parents to do they act like we have nothing else to do when we get home from work. Also for the taking an active role with my children I will have you to know I personally take a role with my children on a daily basis as the father of two and no it is not the teachers job to see that the children and parents take that role it is their job to TEACH the kids. So next time you get ready to comment get the facts while you resist commenting !!!! Things are not always as they seem look beyond the comments for the positive side!!!! Have a blessed day

#4.2.1 anonymous on 03/25/10 at 04:18 PM [Reply]

tired that email site : will try again and have someone help me navigate : does this system tell us individual salary / health plan costs / pension costs / days off paid / life insurance. can someone tell me why charter schools less overall teachers / cost less / outcomes so far seem as good or maybe better. teachers I agree are under appreciated though.

#4.2.2 Sardonic Veracity on 03/25/10 at 05:27 PM [Reply]

I never opened my mouth... do you whisper when you tuype or something? I have done the "research." I have a vested interest in knowing what teachers make you might say.

Teachers send homework for kids to complete, not parents. Don't do you kids' homework. It defeats the purpose! Homework is necessary because there is not enough time in one period to impart everything a child needs to understand or the repetition needed to grasp a theory or subject. It's not "bullcrap" it's pedagogy.

The next time you comment, anonymous father of two, try to see past your own inferior intellect and rise above your station.

"Have a blessed day." *eyeroll*

#4.2.2.1 anonymous on 03/25/10 at 09:03 PM [Reply]

Well if you had a vested interest you should know that teachers make too much money. Since you are so smart try doing their homework and roll your eyes while your at it !!!!! Learn how to spell too it is type not tuype !!!!!!!
You get the message your not as smart as you think !!!!!!!!!!!

#4.2.2.1.1 Sardonic Veracity on 03/26/10 at 02:30 PM [Reply]

Typographical error is not the same as spelling error. However, since "we" are on the job, pointing out others' supposed faults in language arts, only one punctuation mark is needed at the end of a sentence.

I don't think that teachers make too much money. I think they, for the most part with some glaring exceptions, are underpaid especially in poorer counties like Madison.

#4.2.2.1.1.1 Anonomyous on 03/26/10 at 02:54 PM [Reply]

Sardonic : R U a teacher or your spouse or both of you ?

#4.2.2.1.1.1.1 Sardonic Veracity on 04/01/10 at 11:36 AM [Reply]

Yes.

#4.2.2.1.1.1.1.1 anonymos on 04/01/10 at 03:41 PM [Reply]

congrats on your political system doing so well in salary and benefits. I do admire teachers by the way. Problem is taxes and cost of things now. If they tax me more or others or add VAT I will be in the red. Many more like me. My view is a new teacher out of school reasonable salary 28000 grand with 1/3 benie's for about 37500. Coaches of football need adjustments downward. Carrying capacity farmers understand on farmland and problem now is carrying capacity of tax payors. Sorry about this.

#5 Anonymous on 03/24/10 at 05:29 PM [Reply]

Regarding the school deputy, when does she start?

#6 rackem on 03/24/10 at 09:45 PM [Reply]

MC taxpayor not coherent

#6.1 MC person on 03/25/10 at 11:39 AM [Reply]

hey dude I think that taxpayer person right on. hope your not a teacher there.

#6.2 Anonymous on 03/25/10 at 01:42 PM [Reply]

To rackem : maybe your incoherent as you have rack them to much.

#7 Peggy on 03/25/10 at 07:42 AM [Reply]

Just like the dare officer, even tho he works at the Sheriff dept. during summer, he says he can not work the road because if he were to make any cases, going to court would prevent him from his Dare duties. Just down time, no "real"work, summer or otherwise,

#8 Insurgent on 03/25/10 at 08:24 PM [Reply]

Putting police in the schools has nothing to do with "safety". It has every thing to do with acclimating our children for the police state. Thumb scanning to enter the school or get their meals is just around the corner.

#9 MCHS Student on 03/25/10 at 09:35 PM [Reply]

I think this a great idea. This actually saves everyone money. The police were called to the school around 110 times last year...that is an average of one to two calls a week. If you don't know...the school has been vandelized 4 or 5 times this school year. All those times, the school had to pay to fix the damages and the county had to pay to send an officer. A resource officer at the school would cut down on the drugs, fights, vandelism, help with traffic, and do much more here at MCHS. The principals have to deal with more than people realize. They don't just discipline the students. And the teachers need to be worrid about teaching instead of breaking up fights. By law, they don't have to break them up anyways. Our administrators need all the help they can get. This isn't the good ol' country school everyone thinks it is.
Oh...and the comment that they are needed for the other schools...that would be a waste at the elementary schools. It would be good for the middle school to get one if this works out at the high school but all the schools don't need one. That would truly be a waste of tax payers money.

#10 Anonymous on 03/26/10 at 03:59 PM

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#11 brenda on 03/30/10 at 03:19 AM [Reply]

Saw the news and the Resource Officer was there. Not sure what this says about Madison County's situation.

#12 MC taxpayor on 03/30/10 at 08:36 AM [Reply]

often these SRO are retired : I have heard some active patrol officers refer to them as "kindergarden cops". Needed but problem is their job often political and when political again they can decide on who to pursue charges against vs not. Old level playing field or preferential treatment issues. We have a generation now from 1990 to today who is very skeptical about the public school system. That said SRO are needed in many schools if they are independent and should be under sherriff's department and functions as sherriff's deputy or local city police be part of that system so on days off can be used elsewhere if needed. I think you will see law doing this in near future.

#13 Red Hot Raider on 06/01/10 at 05:55 PM [Reply]

Are you people KIDDING me???? You are sitting here worrying about what our teachers are paid. Let me tell you something I don't care if they make $300,000 a year I am very thankful for them. I don't think they make enough to have to put up with people like YOU!! What's your profession? Obviously not a degree or much education. But if u say you have one well guess who helped get you there A TEACHER!!! You all should be ashamed!!! I truly hope you are not from Madison County!!!!!

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