LETTER: Liberal thinking is a danger to society

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Thursday, November 18. 2010

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Dear Editor:

Here is something that your readers probably haven’t considered and that very few young people, if any, know. For all the people that are convinced that big government is the cure for America’s problems, as well as those who consider themselves intellectual – consider this.

Concentrated political power is the most dangerous thing on earth. It is estimated that there have been 262 million victims of “democide,” or government-caused deaths, in the last century. That’s six times as many people dying from democide than by war — death at the hand of people working for the government.

Mass media, now subsidized by a leftist agenda, uses the art of “turnspeak” which is the way of making the oppressed appear to be the oppressor. People who dare to speak up for the American values or for the right to speak out about this current president, or policies, or to protest the downright arrogance of public servants, are bullied by leftists or by misguided citizens of our country.

(See Wikipedia “democide.” See Rudolph Joseph Rummel, professor emeritus of political science at the University of Hawaii, available online at his website.)

In America now, the leftists, socialists, communists condemn Hitler, but they give a pass to and make false distinctions between fascism, communism and socialism. More importantly, the American leftists sympathize with socioeconomic goals of socialism and communism. Too often, teachers with leftist leanings teach American children their views as fact, while neglecting to show proof to the contrary.

Nazi-National Socialist German Workers’ Party murdered 20 million of their own captured nations. (See the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics between 1917 to 1987. See Mao Tse–Tung between 1947 to 87.)

The primary goals of socialism and communism is the government ownership as the means of protection. Quasi-ownership by government regulation, oversight, taxation and subsidies.

If someone tells you how to use your property, it’s tantamount to his owning it.

Voltaire said, “Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.”

Most Americans find socialism, communism, progressivism repugnant, but by sanctioning greater government centralization and its control over our lives, we become the dupes, or as Lenin said, “useful idiots.”

The next time any celebrity is heard criticizing American citizens as a whole, while praising the liberal political agenda and the current president as if he was a combination rock-star/perfect-being – remember this word, “money.” Those people are being paid, in cash or in work that which spells cash. It all comes back to their wealth. But the majority of American citizens aren’t getting wealth. In fact, they are losing their wealth and are being told that’s a good thing. I find that absurd, and it’s past time for all the thinking people to stop being useful idiots.

Our young people don’t need to give up or grow apathetic toward politics or government. They are the future. Their future depends on learning the truth about the past. They can’t get that from basic education or from television or movie celebrities. Sadly, most can’t get that from their own family.

But they can get it. Share your stories, teach our young people. They are smarter than you think.

Sincerely,

Joanne P. White

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#1 Ben Had on 11/19/10 at 06:21 AM [Reply]

You tell em' lady! But just remember that the Social Security check that you receive each month,and the almost free (or completely free) health care that you enjoy are Socialist programs.
Also remember that the Rock Stars/Journalist that you get your info from on Fox News are being paid for their fair and balanced opinions.
Your scare tactics are laughable. Bet you bought into the death panels crap too.

#2 Judy on 11/19/10 at 11:23 AM [Reply]

Jesus was liberal (and, still is)! It is this type of mindset that is helping to lead the U.S. back to the Dark Ages where we will have a theocratic, corporate fascism type of government.

#3 E.J. on 11/19/10 at 07:36 PM [Reply]

Wow. I can agree with the final two paragraphs of this rant but the rest is really quite astonishing. None of the assertations are supported by facts or references, not even clear explanations. The truth is that this country is now at the mercy of corporate America (by judicial decree of the Supreme Court), not leftists, liberals, socialists, communists or progressives and not rightists, conservatives, religious zealots or Sarah Palin. There are just far too many people like this writer wanting to push everything to the dramatic extreme. I'm about to lose hope for the future of my country.

#4 Anonymous on 11/19/10 at 09:27 PM [Reply]

Look forward to seeing Joanne White refuse to draw her Social Security, refuse her military and police protection fighting for her freedoms, refuse Medicare, refuse public education, refuse any inspected or dated food or medicine and all the other "evils" of government.

This poor woman is embarrassing herself.

#5 Bill on 11/20/10 at 08:27 AM [Reply]

Wow. Umm, that is quite an article, Joanne. I am just curious. Exactly what kind of America DO you want to live in? I am going to guess that you want only white, middle-class and beyond, christian, baptist, married with two or more kids, no rock-n-roll music, fox news only, the husband works and wife stays home America. Am I close? I have an idea. Let me say something that is said to many people from conservatives...If you don't like it, leave!

#6 John Fulford on 11/20/10 at 08:53 AM [Reply]

Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined.

Bad men cannot make good citizens. It is impossible that a nation of infidels or idolaters should be a nation of freemen. It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains. A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, is incompatible with freedom. No free government, or the blessings of liberty, can be preserved to any people but by a firm adherence to justice, moderation, temperance, frugality, and virtue; and by a frequent recurrence to fundamental principles.

It is only in this way that we can hope to arrive at truth, and fulfill the great responsibility which we hold to God and our country. Should I keep back my opinions at such a time, through fear of giving offense, I should consider myself as guilty of treason towards my country, and of an act of disloyalty toward the Majesty of Heaven, which I revere above all earthly kings. ... Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things, which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it. Let us not, I beseech you, deceive ourselves. ...

Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!

It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ! For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here.

Are we at last brought to such a humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our own defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in our own possession and under our own direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the_real_object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?

The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able may have a gun.

Have we the means of resisting disciplined armies, when our only defense, the military, is put in the hands of Congress?

A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong gives it a superficial appearance of being right.

But such is the irresistible nature of truth, that all it asks, and all it wants is the liberty of appearing.

Every science has for its basis a system of principles as fixed and unalterable as those by which the universe is regulated and governed. Man cannot make principles; he can only discover them.

Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.

He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.

If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace.

If we do not hang together, we shall surely hang separately.

So the question I put fourth to all is, shall we
live together as one Nation and One System of Government with Equality and True Justice for all, or shall we fall from intolerance and indifference to one another?

#6.1 Anonymous on 11/21/10 at 03:31 AM [Reply]

John, did you actually graduate from the School of Cut And Paste, or did you just cut and paste your name onto the diploma?

#6.1.1 John on 11/25/10 at 05:20 AM [Reply]

What's wrong Anonymous ? Your Mom not giving you enough love or attention? Perhaps you just don't like Patrick Henry or Thomas Paine.

Maybe you just don't like America or Freedom or anybody or anything!

I believe you may have exceeded the recommended pneumatic psi level in your hippocampus or frontal lobe. LOL

#7 Gram on 11/20/10 at 11:17 AM [Reply]

Here's another term for you: fear mongering.

I find incredulous your belief that most young people whose "future depends on learning the truth about the past" "can't get that from their own family."

In November 2008 American citizens went to the polls, and a majority voted into office our current president, Barack Obama. The ability to vote for candidates of our choice in free and open elections is an important part of a free society and is a fundamental tenet of liberal democracy.

You've probably come across the term "liberal democracy" in your readings of R. J. Rummel's works. It's something he believes in and supports, even if he doesn't like the choice of the majority of American voters in 2008.

That election cycle was a historical moment, and for months I shared the related histories with my grandchildren, just as I shared countless aspects of American and world history with my children when they were growing up.

I would never want to live in a country where by law children are taught what to think, which is tantamount to brainwashing, rather than how to think for themselves.

I certainly would not want anyone with a pejorative bent--such as the one demonstrated by you that equates liberal, progressive, and leftist Americans with communism, fascism, Nazism, socialism, and the government-sponsored deaths of millions of people--teaching my grandchildren anything except what a fear monger sounds like.

Nice job. Thanks for the lesson.

#7.1 Patriot on 11/21/10 at 11:05 AM [Reply]

I have a Question for anybody who wishes to answer it.
What system of Government are we suppose to have?
A: Liberal Democracy
B: Conservative Democracy
C: Constitutional Democracy
D: Constitutional Republic

#7.1.1 Ben Had on 11/22/10 at 10:00 AM [Reply]

The answer is C.

#7.1.2 SardonicVeracity on 11/23/10 at 11:11 AM [Reply]

E. Representative Reputblic

#7.1.2.1 Ben Had on 11/23/10 at 06:20 PM [Reply]

You can't even spell Republic. I would take that little degree back to Royston and try to get a refund, if I were you.

#7.1.2.1.1 Sardonic Veracity on 11/23/10 at 09:03 PM [Reply]

It's a big degree - you should see the price tag.

#7.1.3 Patriot on 11/25/10 at 08:10 AM [Reply]

The correct answer is D.
We are supposed to have a Constitutional Republic.
The only thing about our system that's a Democracy is our Elections.
The Founders called a Democracy, Mobocracy.
Democracy is mob rule and under our system of Government we have individual rights,not collective rights which can be taken away by
by the majority.

That would mean any or all of our freedom's could be take away by a bigger mob who didn't like what you were doing with your freedom.

Mr Fulford's writing more clearly state's this with Patrick Henry's quote ( He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.)

#7.1.3.1 Ben Had on 11/26/10 at 07:05 AM [Reply]

I believe you are wrong,friend. The Supreme Court is the great equalizer that prevents mob rule.
Remember the 2004 election? Al Gore would have become president if your majority rules theory of a Constituional Democracy were correct.
Dig deeper.

#7.1.3.1.1 Sardonic Veracity on 11/26/10 at 05:38 PM [Reply]

Here's a question for the class: Name the three ways that Mr. Had's response was faulty.

#7.1.3.1.1.1 Ben Had on 11/26/10 at 07:22 PM [Reply]

I should have stopped after the first two sentences, I agree,but, I maintain that we are a Constitutional Democracy. And, that the Supreme court is the ultimate protector of individuals' rights preventing mob rule.

#7.1.3.1.1.1.1 Sardonic Veracity on 11/28/10 at 11:41 AM [Reply]

The Constitution is the basis for the rule of law in the United States - therefore it would be the protector or the "blueprint for protecting citizens from mob rule." The Supreme Court is taxed with interpreting the Constitution and protecting its validity. So, perhaps, in essence, that could be construed as correct.

The 2004 election was between Bush and Kerry. Bush won the popular and electoral vote. This is an example of how our government is set up as a representative republic. Another would be the Congress. If we were a true Democracy, there would be no need for a Congress. Americans would vote on everything. Instead, we, as groups, elect one person to represent us by voting. A democracy would be incredibly cumbersome.

#8 Country Boy on 11/20/10 at 11:44 AM [Reply]

Jesus a Liberal ? Rock star journalist on Fox News , fair and balanced ? Social Security a Socialist program ?
So many things to debate . Is there one single thing that we can agree on?
I know how about FREEDOM !!!

#8.1 Anonymous on 11/21/10 at 03:35 AM [Reply]

Most of you harping about "freedom" wouldn't last 5 minutes in an environment of actual, complete freedom. Not 5 minutes.

#8.1.1 Country Boy on 11/25/10 at 07:53 AM [Reply]

Anonymous since you are so sure of yourself about nobody being able to handle not even 5 minutes of complete freedom,perhaps you might be willing to clarify in detail what your perception of complete freedom is.
I bet you 5 bucks no matter what you come up with ,I can out last your 5 minutes!

#9 jo anne white on 11/20/10 at 11:34 PM [Reply]

You really do need to grow up and learn how to understand what you attempt to read people. This isn't a rant. It is fact and it can easily be substantiated by looking on the computer. The thing which so many of you who rant enjoy playing on. My facts don't come from Fox News. Most of you who enjoy using that tired attempt to belittle anything that you do not agree with don't even watch Fox , so you wouldn't know anyway.

#9.1 Ben Had on 11/22/10 at 08:18 AM [Reply]

"The truth is that this country is now at the mercy of corporate America (by judicial decree of the Supreme Court), not leftists, liberals, socialists, communists or progressives and not rightists, conservatives, religious zealots or Sarah Palin. There are just far too many people like this writer wanting to push everything to the dramatic extreme. I'm about to lose hope for the future of my country."

Thanks, EJ.

#9.2 Bill on 11/22/10 at 04:24 PM [Reply]

Jo anne, you are right. It isn't a rant, it now sounds like whining. Some people didn't agree with you so you pout outloud. It is alright for you to attack others and yet, you do not like it when others do the same toward you. You don't enjoy when other assume you watch Fox news or other traits about you and yet you have no problem doing the same toward others. You mention how people 'rant' about their beliefs and politics and yet you think your rant is a soft-spoken whisper of an opinion. You tell others to grow up yet you sound like the crying little girl who nobody will play with. It seems that you don't dislike others, you dislike yourself. Do you really want to be scared your entire life?

#9.2.1 joanne white on 11/23/10 at 12:57 AM [Reply]

You are an idiot. You rated a personal reply though. You like to play guessing games by attempting to profile me? You are off. You call me a whiner, and say that I'm fearful, or that I am lonely for playmates... Is that the best that you can do to try to trash my post? By trying to attack me as a person? And you attempt to prove that you are so much more adult because you do something that dumb and childish. You apparently think that if you profile white, middle class women, or Baptist, or stay at home Moms,that you have proved yourself of superior worth. How dare you . How many people did you profile and attempt to insult by that profile? Or did that cross your mind when you wrote it? You aren't hurting me and none of you concern me any more that I do you. But it would seem that you are the fearful ones. It does seem that the Democrats are so fond of saying that they are reality based. Except when they're not!

#9.2.1.1 Ben Had on 11/24/10 at 05:14 PM [Reply]

I wouldn't be calling anybody an idiot,if I were you. No one has chimed in to support your babbling,in fact,quite the contary has happened. Believe me,SV wanted to support you,but,he bailed as soon as he saw the ships' point of origin. Smart guy.
Profiled? I thought you were probably 80ish and just feeble minded. Sorry.
You need to turn the TV news off, you're starting to believe everything you hear.
And,one Professor reinventing words like "democide" means nothing to most people,especially Americans.

#10 SardonicVeracity on 11/22/10 at 02:18 PM [Reply]

After you mentioned "Wikipedia," I really quit trying to figure out what you were trying to say.

Then I didn't really try to read what anyone wrote in response.

Maybe later - probably not. Wikipedia - give me a break.

#11 jo anne white on 11/23/10 at 12:19 AM [Reply]

Sardonic v, In the browser of your computer you can type in and get Wikipedia, then look up the word democide and the name Joseph Rummel. To Gram, you are out of contex. I didn't say children can't get- I said they don't, and for the most part the larger majority don't receive the quality instruction from elders now . , People who haven't got the courage of their convictions to sign their own names to their post are cowards . I would like to face the fool that thinks that Jesus ( God) can be put into a little box with the label of either "liberal" or conservative, Republican or Democrat. How pitiful can a person be that they have no better knowledge of Almighty God. Ben,I don't believe that Social Security is Socialism. That can be debated and has been debated by others. I want a free america. With the Constitutional rights as intended by our founding fathers.

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