Former Danielsville employees don’t show for ‘name clearing’

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Danielsville’s mayor and council set up a “name clearing” hearing at the beginning of the June 13 regular council meeting for the three employees they fired last month, but the hearing was cancelled because none of them attended.

City attorney Dale Perry said he sent certified letters about the scheduled hearing to former city clerk Connie Riley, former police chief Rodney Christian and maintenance supervisor Scott Anglin. “Let the record show it’s 7:07 p.m. and none of them are here,” he said.

Also June 13, council members expressed their gratitude to their remaining employees, their temporary staff and new employees. Councilman Ron Faust said he wanted to thank the employees for “doing what it takes” to get the city back on its feet following the recent firings and resignations.

The council also gave maintenance worker Daniel Turk a $2 an hour increase in pay following a closed session for his employee review.

Mayor Philip Croya thanked Comer police chief Brent Zellner and officer Cliff Moody for agreeing to serve as temporary police officers for Danielsville.

Croya said that citizens seem to like the new setup, which he said has given Danielsville coverage seven days a week, including nights and weekend coverage.

Croya added that he wants the council to discuss hiring a new full-time police chief at the work session later this month.

OTHER MATTERS

In another matter, the council voted to renew its property and liability insurance contract with GIRMA (Georgia Interlocal Risk Management Agency) at an annual cost of $23,955. The council instructed the administrative staff to pay one-half the premium now and the other half in 30 days.

Councilwoman Junne Temple told the council that she cancelled an order with Pontem Company for cemetery management software.

The council also discussed the purchase, or lease, of a new copier for City Hall, but agreed to get more prices before making a decision. Temple said Graham Office Products has provided the office with a loaner for the time being, and instructed city clerk Suzanne Ferguson to inquire about paying a rental fee for its continued use.

The administrative staff was also instructed to obtain a list of streetlights the city is being billed for by Georgia Power Company.

The council tabled or took no action on a number of other items on Monday’s agenda, including a budget resolution, the spending policy, the first draft of the city code, a flexible benefit plan, and the purchase of a safe for City Hall.

Mayor Croya said he had a “real need for a safe right now.”

“I have some stuff I need to lock up,” Croya said. The council agreed to discuss the matter again at its monthly work session.

Finally, the council agreed that it may need to set up a special called meeting to consider the issue of a variance for The Medicine Shoppe pharmacy. Temple said business owner George Elrod asked about a variance three months ago, and that the request had not been taken care of as she had thought, so if possible, she would like to get the matter settled within the month.

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#1 Anonymous on 06/23/11 at 02:18 AM [Reply]

Hmmm...all that hoopla and letters. Then a chance to clear their names, and not a one shows up. Which logically follows that the firings were with good reason. And the knew it. So they didn't show. Well, at least now we know for sure.

#1.1 Anonymous on 06/23/11 at 04:15 PM [Reply]

Very good point, and well stated. I totally agree. E.J. was correct with what he said as well, but I never would have been able to turn down an opportunity to "clear my name" and defend myself openly. All the complaining online, and when they get their chance, they sit it away. Doesn't seem like "innocent" actions to me.

#2 sawdust on 06/23/11 at 09:10 AM [Reply]

Maybe they could have shown up via text message. thats the way they got fired.

#2.1 Resident Redneck on 06/23/11 at 08:26 PM [Reply]

sawdust- I agree and they may have showed up by text message BUT the big Mayor left his phone in the car and he will say they have to show up in person? AND FOR WHAT? What good is a name clearing hearing anyway? It's not like these people would have gotten their jobs back OR their names cleared? AND if anyone says their names would have been cleared then you have been fooled by all the talk by the Mayor and BOC that they are NICE, UPSTANDING MEN? They are going to do what they want to do and not care what nobody has to say about it? UNTIL right before the next election then they will all be kissing butt to get elected again hoping everyone will forget what they did in the past? Not me boys I DON'T FORGET....

#2.1.1 Resident NON-Redneck on 06/25/11 at 03:11 PM [Reply]

I have seen numerous posts by you on different articles and I HAVE to say that you are seriously in need of help, and not just one 'med' tablet. You exude anger, biasness and a total lack of caring about 'facts' unless they are YOUR 'facts'. You might actually get listened to if you didn't just spew accusations, anger and hatred. I truly feel compassion for you as you must be one miserable person with lots of time to stir things up for other people.

#2.1.1.1 Resident Redneck on 06/26/11 at 03:21 PM [Reply]

NOPE I is do be one happy dude. On your post I started reading it then after a few lines all I heard was YADA YADA YADA YADA AND the reason I comment on different articles is because when a story comes out as stupid as firing someone by text message I can not and will not keep my opinion to myself.
All of you who say the Mayor was right to do this. Let me ask you WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE FIRED THIS WAY? If I was hired by text message it would be fine BUT if I was hired in person then I should be fired in person? Did they conduct the interviews by text message? NO the people wanting the job had to go in in person for the interview. AND the Mayor wants everyone to respect him BUT he can't even respect the people he wants to fire by looking them in the eyes? This all has the sounds of a teenage high school spat?Mr. Mayor you ain't in high school no more.

#3 sawdust on 06/23/11 at 10:45 AM [Reply]

Where is my post?

#4 E.J. on 06/23/11 at 12:14 PM [Reply]

I don't know .... Unless they intended to sue to get their jobs back or to get compensation for unjust firing, they probably just want to get on with their lives. It would be a waste of effort. Seems like they did all the "name clearing" they wanted to do in the paper and online. An appearance with the commission and the public would be an additional stress to their lives and wouldn't change a thing.

#5 Redneck MC on 06/23/11 at 01:34 PM [Reply]

I would have shown up with or without attorney. My experience with one of above was less than warm and fuzzy and as public employee should possibly have been different. My view and feel all are good people.

#5.1 Teacher on 06/24/11 at 09:45 AM [Reply]

May not have been proper grammar EJ but I got message very clear. Maybe you are having a bad day or are you friends with some of these people ?

#5.1.1 Resident Redneck on 06/24/11 at 11:47 AM [Reply]

Teacher- You are right and I don't believe it finally someone in the position to be the Grammar police says what I have said before. It don't matter what grammar you use, if you spell every word correct, or weather you use question marks or periods AS LONG AS YOU GET YOUR POINT ACROSS and people understand what you are saying.

#5.1.1.1 E.J. on 06/24/11 at 07:03 PM [Reply]

From Resident Redneck's response to your post, apparently, he/she cannot separate emotion from reason and, furthermore, may not can reason at all. That is why your statement sounded "STUPID" to him/her. I am dismayed to find that there are an amazing number of people just like that in Madison County.

#5.1.1.1.1 Resident Redneck on 06/25/11 at 10:42 AM [Reply]

YEP E.J.- There are some people left in Madison County that have a heart and think everyone should be treated the same no matter what? UNLIKE YOU AND THE MAYOR. AND let me ask you Do you live in Madison County?

#5.1.1.2 E.J. on 06/24/11 at 07:07 PM [Reply]

".... AS LONG AS YOU GET YOUR POINT ACROSS and people understand what you are saying."

I didn't understand what was being said, therefore, the writer did not get their point across, so they failed to be heard by me. That, of course, is no disaster in the great scheme of things.

#5.1.2 E.J. on 06/24/11 at 12:23 PM [Reply]

I want to hear this side of the discussion, but I can't make out what is meant. As to being "friends with some of these people", what people? It's not clear to me. I would appreciate knowing Redneck MC's point; I suspect I might agree, but I just don't know. Besides, I take sides (often both) based only on the merits of the comments. I don't know any of the folks in this sad debacle and am kind of glad I don't.

#5.1.2.1 Resident Redneck on 06/24/11 at 08:28 PM [Reply]

E.J.- What Teacher meant by their statement was they didn't know if you were having a bad day or if you were friends with the Mayor or the BOC because you are so quick to defend them because you think they have Merits and that's why they have the jobs they have but you would be WRONG in thinking that.

#5.1.2.1.1 E.J. on 06/25/11 at 11:55 AM [Reply]

Thank you and your communication is much better here (other than a run-on sentence). I usually defend actions, ideas or opinions, not people, groups or organizations. I do not like labels.

#5.1.2.1.1.1 Resident Redneck on 06/26/11 at 08:46 AM [Reply]

E.J.- I agree with you there but what I can't understand is how anyone could defend being fired by a text message? That is something that should be done in person face to face? If text messaging has become the normal thing to do so you don't have to face someone how would ANYONE like to have their spouse say they wanted a divorce by text message? If you can't tell me face to face then keep it to yourself?

#5.1.2.1.1.1.1 E.J. on 06/27/11 at 04:07 PM [Reply]

If what the mayor said is true then he had cause to fire employees. I don't know if what he said is true. I don't know if what the employees said is true. So it is hard to judge. As to the text messaging, Mr. Croya intended to fire them face-to-face by asking them by text message to meet him at his office. Evidently they didn't come to the meeting and missed a chance to be informed before the information hit the paper. Therefore, Mr. Croya informed them, in fairness, by text message. They should have had a heads-up before the paper was published or the information got out.

#5.1.2.1.1.1.1.1 Resident Redneck on 06/27/11 at 10:54 PM [Reply]

E.J.- You say if what the Mayor said was true then he had cause to fire them? WHAT DID THE MAYOR SAY WAS HIS REASON? That's like I could say I sent you a text message yesterday telling you to come over but you never showed up and I was going to GIVE YOU $10,000. but you never came so I'm keeping the money. See I can say it, it ain't true but I can say it. It's my word against yours? I say I sent the text and you say you never got it?

#5.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1 E.J. on 06/28/11 at 12:09 PM [Reply]

Mr. Croya's reasons were a bit sketchy and I would want to more clarification; several posters here asked the paper to provide that. so, you are right; I should withold judgement until such information is available.

At least one terminated employee responded to the text saying he wouldn't come to the meeting, which was during working hours, because he was going to his kid's game, a breach of proper employee conduct in and of itself. He had his chance for a face-to-face. I forget the stories about the others.

#6 E.J. on 06/23/11 at 04:07 PM [Reply]

"My experience with one of above was less than warm and fuzzy and as public employee should possibly have been different."

I'm afraid I can't figure out what this sentence means. ".... one of the above ...." What? Commenters? Commissioners? New employees? Fired employees? What?

".... as public employee should possibly have been different."

I can't even guess at this. Punctuation might help. When writing, readers can't hear your pauses, inflections and tone. So clue us in, please. Maybe you are accustomed to talking inside your own head too much. Try to get outside yourself and you might have more impact on the world.

#6.1 MC newcomer on 06/24/11 at 08:26 AM [Reply]

Who ever EJ is seems to be teaching like my frustrated student teacher did to 3 rd graders. Frustration EJ.

I have a question. Did prior Police chief have as many or close to as many stops as others. If that is the case maybe something to the stop issue. Not sure what it is though. Does anyone ( bet old EJ does ) know ?

#6.1.1 E.J. on 06/24/11 at 12:27 PM [Reply]

What do you mean by "stops"? And why would I know anything about them?

#6.1.1.1 Resident Redneck on 06/24/11 at 08:34 PM [Reply]

E.J.- Come on you ain't that stupid? STOPS. What happens when the police gets behind you and turns his blue lights on? HE STOPS YOU... AND you act like you know everything so MC newcomer figured you SHOULD know about this?

#6.1.1.1.1 E.J. on 06/25/11 at 12:04 PM [Reply]

A chief of police has much more than traffic stops as part of his or her duties. I guess traffic stops is something I am not familiar with as I have never been "stopped" (Yes, I know, I am one of a rare few). Now I need to know why the number of "stops" matters and what the "stop" issue is.

#6.1.1.1.1.1 Resident Redneck on 06/26/11 at 02:53 PM [Reply]

E.J.- They got a quota and they all have to meet that quota?

#6.1.1.1.1.1.1 E.J. on 06/27/11 at 04:17 PM [Reply]

Really?! If that is what it takes to get our law enforcement to get busy out there, I am feeling insecure. Traffic should come after all other facets of law enforcement are addressed. Of course, patroling will have them come across traffic violations that they should attend to, but I would hope they would be working on the big stuff like meth and gang problems and solving crimes. I'll have to find out the reason for these quotas.

#6.1.1.1.1.1.2 Resident Whiteneck on 09/11/11 at 08:59 PM [Reply]

You are so dumb

#6.1.1.1.2 MC on 06/28/11 at 05:27 PM [Reply]

This EJ fella think posted had no TV. Seems he has some not so main stream thoughts. Must be buddy of police chief that gone. At least we know EJ drives as never been stopped. Maybe does not drive much. Sometimes I think EJ needs a TV so maybe would not post as much.

#6.2 Med MC on 06/24/11 at 02:04 PM [Reply]

E.J. take your medicine. Maybe metaphor.

#6.2.1 E.J. on 06/24/11 at 07:11 PM [Reply]

It's not time for my medication until 9 p.m. So you think there is a metaphor there? Can you explain it to me? And while you're at it, clue me in to what "stop" means in this context.

#6.2.1.1 Kid on 06/26/11 at 10:52 AM [Reply]

"Stops" mean in police chat stopping car or tickets or safety type pull overs etc. Even I knew that. So whatever to you E.J.

#6.2.1.1.1 MC lady on 06/27/11 at 11:39 AM [Reply]

I knew what stops meant too. I would like to know also if prior chief did more stops than the fired chief. Fair comparison I think.

#6.2.1.1.1.1 Resident Redneck on 06/27/11 at 02:18 PM [Reply]

MC lady- STOPS don't matter and as far as the Mayor is concerned He thinks he got rid of the people who might stand up against him? Get rid of the strong and keep the weak?

#6.2.1.1.1.2 Another Redneck on 06/27/11 at 02:24 PM [Reply]

Yes did the fired chief make as many stops as old chief before him ? I want to know also.

Hall county having lay offs to help with budget. Now time for county to look at high paid employee people and if the department bloated then cut them.

#6.2.1.1.1.2.1 Resident Redneck on 06/27/11 at 09:44 PM [Reply]

Another Redneck- I don't think helping the budget by cutting these people EVER entered his mind? He had a problem with them so he got rid of them? That's what I think BECAUSE I haven't heard a reason from the Mayor himself? I know some people want to guess at the reason BUT I don't want to hear guesses I want the truth as do SOME PEOPLE on here?

#6.2.1.1.1.2.1.1 Another Redneck on 06/28/11 at 08:14 AM [Reply]

Resident Redneck my view is did the dismissed chief have as many stops as prior chief. If not then why not. Just because you may know someone is no reason not to act toward them as you to me or maybe you if stopped for speeding or ticket or whatever. I want for someone to compare the stops and that should be public info.

I am tired of being taxed when services I see are just not worth what I am paying. I feel like I work for the MC employees who have better benefits and vacation. I work 60+ hours week. Time for these MC employees all to take a 20% cut or county lets 10% go and reduce our taxes. Teachers need a pay cut and school tax needs reducing. I NEED TAX relief.

#6.2.1.1.1.2.1.1.1 Taxed enough on 06/28/11 at 02:50 PM [Reply]

Amen on salary reduction to help us.

#6.2.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1 mc anon on 06/29/11 at 08:26 AM [Reply]

yes I am taxed too much also. I feel like the people my taxes help pay for their food and home and all taking advantage of me. Has to stop.

#6.2.1.2 Resident Redneck on 06/28/11 at 08:51 PM [Reply]

E.J.- I'll tell you stop in this context means PULLED OVER, BLUE LIGHTED, You know STOPPED by the law,pigs,the fuzz,cops, law enforcement officers? NOW D O E S T H A T E X P L A I N I T F O R Y O U?

#6.2.1.2.1 E.J. on 06/29/11 at 11:40 AM [Reply]

This is the second time you have offered an explanation. I've already indicated that I get it and thanked all those who helped me out.

Why are you shouting with all those capital letters? You sound incredibly angry like you have lost it.

#6.2.1.2.1.1 Another Redneck on 06/29/11 at 02:26 PM [Reply]

Naw they EJ we just have family that need to be told over and over and OVER the same thing before it sinks in. My wife does this reminder stuff all the time there so we are just trying to help you. GET IT.

#6.2.1.2.1.2 Resident Redneck on 06/29/11 at 03:42 PM [Reply]

E.J.- I ain't(am not) shouting I was just getting that point across? BUT my computer don't(does not) allow me the option to type in BOLD letters SO I did the next best thing and used capital letters?

#6.2.2 Resident Redneck on 06/24/11 at 08:38 PM [Reply]

Med MC- That's a good one.

#7 bubbalicious on 06/23/11 at 08:23 PM [Reply]

Honorable people would've shown up for an official name-clearing, because they'd want the truth to come out. If they didn't show, it probably means they didn't want the real truth to come out, and that tells me they knew they deserved to get fired. It also shows they have contempt for the process so maybe it was time for them to go.

#7.1 Resident Redneck on 06/24/11 at 08:54 AM [Reply]

bubbalicious- You been chewing to much Bubble gum. Who says if they would have showed up they would have had a chance to speak? Your big bad TEXT MESSAGING Mayor had done made up his mind and the minds of the BOC SO nothing they could have said would have made a difference IF they were allowed to speak?
PEEP this if they started speaking they would have been shut down then if they tried to keep speaking the law would have been called and they would be arrested for disturbing a BOC meeting then they would forever be known as a trouble maker?

#7.1.1 bubbalicious on 06/24/11 at 07:48 PM [Reply]

People all over America are ending relationships -- personal and professional -- via text messages. It's called the 21st century.

#7.1.1.1 Resident Redneck on 06/25/11 at 11:02 AM [Reply]

bubbalicious- Just because people all over the country are doing it by text message DON'T MAKE IT RIGHT. People all over the country are drinking and driving, shop lifting, and cheating on their spouses SO just because all them other people are doing it does that make it alright for you to do it too?

#7.1.1.1.1 Virginia Moss on 06/27/11 at 03:54 PM [Reply]

I agree to some extent, after all it is the twenty-first century. However, it does seem a bit cowardly to break up with a friend other than face-to-face. I also feel strongly that a note of sympathy should always be hand written, never an e-mail or text message, not even a card. If you care enough to communicate to the survivors, it should be as intimate as possible preferably face-to-face.

#7.1.1.1.1.1 Resident Redneck on 06/27/11 at 10:38 PM [Reply]

Virginia Moss- You, Me, and a couple of other people agree that this was the cowardly way out BUT the reason I think he did it this way was because HE(the Mayor) can't look nobody in the eyes when he destroys a persons career. I don't know if he's scared or don't have the heart because when you take a MANS job away from him he can either say alright and walk out, get very emotional, or whip your tail? He may be scared of the last one and don't have the compassion for the emotional reaction?
How would yall like for the President to conduct business by text message? How would you like for him to decide and discuss things that concern the American people and YOU by text message?

#7.1.1.2 E.J. on 06/25/11 at 12:11 PM [Reply]

Sad to say, you may be right. I heard on NPR's "Marketplace" that e-mail was now the old-fashioned way of communicating. However, I had to send an invoice to a new client on paper by snail-mail because they had no e-mail; they are an elderly mom-and-pop business still trying to hang on.

#7.1.2 competent voter on 07/02/11 at 12:51 PM [Reply]

Wow...You know how to see into the future....Hey,could you give me the winning lottery numbers for next weekend?Please,please,please????

#7.1.2.1 competent voter on 07/02/11 at 08:56 PM [Reply]

For clarification 7.1.2 was to resident redneck.

#7.1.2.2 Resident Redneck on 07/03/11 at 02:47 PM [Reply]

competent voter- No can do. I DON'T ABUSE MY POWER like some do? If I use my powers to see the future and give you the winning Lottery numbers? Everyone would be knocking down my door? Seeing the future is a gift from God and I don't ABUSE my gift? AND don't you think if I was going to use my power to give someone the winning Lottery numbers it would be ME?

#8 bubbalicious on 06/23/11 at 08:34 PM [Reply]

How about dealing with what he said and not how he said it?

It was very clear to me the writer felt an encounter with one of the fired employees demonstrated a lack of professional courtesy.

I'll be happy to step in translate other instances of ungrammatical English for you. It's terrible to see a grown-up suffer over improper punctuation. Help is available!

#8.1 Resident Redneck on 06/24/11 at 09:10 AM [Reply]

Ok bubbalicious - "Deal with what he said not how he said it" Do you realize how STUPID that sounds? YOUR FIRED can only be taken ONE way. It means you no longer have a job and you won't be getting no more pay checks?
AND TO ALL OF YOU who say it was ok for the Mayor to conduct business like this. Let me ask you Would you like to work somewhere for years and your boss send you a text message telling you that you were fired? If so then this is sad what this world has become from when a mans word was his bond?

#8.1.1 Anonymous on 06/24/11 at 11:35 AM [Reply]

Speaking of how stupid something sounds, try your sentence, "Your fired."

Did you mean, "YOU'RE fired?"

Idiot.

#8.1.1.1 Resident Redneck on 06/24/11 at 08:16 PM [Reply]

Anonymous- Since your so big and bold that you won't even post a name I'll just call you NOBODY. Ok Mr./Ms. NOBODY let me ask you what's the difference between YOUR, YOU'RE,and YOU ARE? Did you not understand what I was saying? I think you did because you want to correct me on my grammar? You need to go back up and read the post from Teacher #5.1 it says it best.

#8.2 E.J. on 06/24/11 at 12:40 PM [Reply]

If you are referring to #6 E.J., I would very much appreciate your translations! Still, commenters should attempt to communicate more thoroughly in order to give their coments more and wider power. So "one of the above" was a fired employee. OK. That makes it a little easier to figure out the second part.

In an effort to be helpful the following would be my suggestion:

My experience with one of the fired employees was less than warm and fuzzy; a public employee should be more accommodating.

AGREED!

#9 Facts on 06/24/11 at 02:30 PM [Reply]

As someone who has been in management in government the above "name clearing" meeting would not have been legal.
An appeal hearing by any other name should have been provided by the city with a 3rd party hearing officer who would hear both sides.(behind closed doors)
That would give both sides equal footing. To hold it as stated and for that to be published smacks of a circus and or lack of knowledge in employee law by the city attorney.

With all that said this is an at will state and the chances of winning such an appeal are slim to none. Same with appealing unemployment compensation.

Mayor Croya needs to learn a little tact and diplomacy going forward if he wishes to succeed in public office.

#9.1 Resident Redneck on 06/24/11 at 08:57 PM [Reply]

Facts- That's what I said that I didn't think this was legal? And Mayor Croya didn't want a 3rd party involved because then he wouldn't be in control and the other parties would have a chance to speak? You know after what you just said MAYBE the other parties knew this wasn't legal and it would be a circus with the Mayor being the ring master and the council being the trained dancing bears so they decided not to show up OR the Lawyer that some of you say drafted the letter for them may have told them that this wasn't legal and not to show up.

#9.1.1 E.J. on 06/25/11 at 12:20 PM [Reply]

Interesting. Also clear except for the question marks; what's up with that? It is always much easier for readers to take in short, concise sentences in a series rather than run-on sentences, but the meaning here is clear as is the point.

#10 competent voter on 06/25/11 at 07:48 AM [Reply]

I love the way these "discussions" so often wander off into the twilight zone....I do not know what happened to lead up to all this but I'll tell you what I do know.There seems to be a trend toward hammering the mayor for doing what he felt was necessary.People are hung up on the text message issue and are using it to attack the mayor.Fine.If he did something out of line,he should be called out for it.But,I have followed these stories and the people commenting on them and I am sorry to see this has become a personal attack on the mayor instead of a quest for the truth.A number of posters did nothing more than telegraph their ignorance of the situation by not providing the other side in their rants.Now I understand why they didn't(it would have deflated their little I hate the mayor bubble)but the intelligent people of the world know that the lunatic on the soap box screaming about something that the facts aren't even out on yet,just loves the sound of his own voice.So what happened when a (possible) good reason for the text came out?Did anyone (of you) say huh,maybe we better look into this?Judging by past posts,I think not.So now,ignorance isn't in play.Ignorance has now become stupidity.I say stupidity because if you think that competent voters are going to just follow you over the cliff because they like the sound of your flute(pied piper ref.(just in case needed)),your wrong.I assume that those that can write these posts can also read them.so go back and read them again.If the mayor had no choice,then he did not do something wrong here.Why did he do it to only one employee?What has become apparent is that this was never about the fairness of the firings,it was about someone or some ones friend being fired.All I am saying is that if you are going to post something,it would really be nice if it was relatively accurate and at least attempted to be fair.

#10.1 E.J. on 06/26/11 at 12:52 PM [Reply]

As you seem a fair and intelligent person, I probaly don't have to remind you that these comment boards attract ranters because they can't get punched in the face for what they say. While the words are often objectionable, this format offers discussions one would never witness in public. I have been fascinated with the effect of anonynomy on comments. People who normally are too shy to speak up find a voice here and maybe develop a strenght over time to be heard in the real world. People who need to rant can relieve their anger without anyone getting hurt, making them a calmer peson in the real world (hopefully). Everybody else has an opportunity to have real discussions at one level or another. Commenters, however, are not a representative cross-section of the community by any stretch of the imagination. I think anonymous commenting has a place in spite of the nastiness.

#10.1.1 Rant EJ Rant on 06/27/11 at 10:11 AM [Reply]

Yes EJ you do rant. Get on that special tax break thing you promised to do.

#10.1.1.1 anon on 06/28/11 at 12:19 PM [Reply]

In case you and others haven't noticed, EJ has been ignoring y'all for some time now. Give it a rest.

#10.1.1.1.1 Another Redneck on 06/28/11 at 05:21 PM [Reply]

Let ole EJ ignore us. The posting will continue by not only me but others. Lets others know about him. No rest needed anon as my taxes too high from people with this tax break that i don't get.

#10.1.1.1.1.1 Resident Redneck on 06/28/11 at 08:40 PM [Reply]

Another Redneck- Let me answer both of your questions since E.J. won't: The reason he is ignoring you, me, and others is BECAUSE WE ARE RIGHT and the reason you don't get the tax break is because YOU PAY YOUR TAXES and you ain't sorry out hunting for the easy cheap way out?

#10.1.1.1.1.1.1 Voter on 06/29/11 at 09:22 AM [Reply]

Run E.J. for BOC position. That way we will know he can chat out of both sides of his mouth.

#10.1.2 competent voter on 07/02/11 at 01:01 PM [Reply]

Well e.j. I must admit,that responce is very accurate.I feel that it is a shame that so many ranters continue to foam at the mouth about something that has been shown to be unavoidable but they are welcome to if they want to.Thank you for your view.It is refreshing to know that there are some intelligent people out there too....

#11 Anonymous on 06/25/11 at 10:28 PM [Reply]

No show = Guilty.

'nuff said.

#12 sawdust on 06/27/11 at 12:06 PM [Reply]

I stand by my post.

#12.1 Resident Redneck on 06/27/11 at 02:29 PM [Reply]

sawdust- No matter if someone agrees with you or disagrees with you? I have to give you one thing. You believe what you say and YOU STAND BY IT. I like that no matter if I like what you say or not? I respect the fact that you stand behind what you say.

#13 Holly on 07/06/11 at 05:32 PM [Reply]

WOW...I didn't know we have so many childish people in Madison County like a few I already know. Let me start off by saying what in the world is the point to show up for a name clearing? Scott said what he wanted to say in the paper. So why continue on with it? Being that some of you are acting like kids, do any of you know that in the state of Georgia an employer does not have to have a reason to fire their employee? Why show up? So that the Mayor and Council and that attorney can laugh behind their backs when they leave? Their fired. Did any of you think just maybe that was a waste of Scott, Connie, and Rodney's time? Seriously, do yall think they would have gotten their jobs back? NOPE! Like "EJ" said it wouldn't have changed a thing. Mayor AND Council had some piss poor excuses of the firings and DID DO wrong of how it was done.Just so that a lot of you know Phillip can take all the blame if he wants to...but he wasn't the only one behind the firings there's one more person involved, he just happens to be the one it's falling back on...they hired who they wanted. Good Luck to them. What goes around comes around.

#13.1 Resident Redneck on 07/06/11 at 09:19 PM [Reply]

Holly- I agree with you 100%. If you get fired showing up for this so called meeting would be USELESS? AND let me add STUPID. BUT they couldn't call it what it really was? It was really a "SO WE CAN LAUGH AT YOU MEETING" BUT you know Holly I think they wanted these people to beg for their jobs back JUST so in the end they could say no YOUR FIRED.

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