Watson Mill talks continue

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Tuesday, December 13. 2011
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Madison County continues to fight to keep the “state park” in Watson Mill’s name.

Negotiations between county and state officials over the park are ongoing. The state Department of Natural Resources decided earlier this year to demote the “park” to an “outdoor recreation area.” But Madison County commissioners have adamantly opposed the move, saying that the park, which is partly in both Madison and Oglethorpe counties, is vital for the local economy. They also say that if the park is neglected, it will become a hub for criminal activity.

County officials don’t want the park office to be shut down. They say that the office is needed to allow people to secure reservations at the park facilities. Without the ability to obtain reservations, many park goers won’t visit the grounds, officials say.

State officials proposed that Madison County contribute $25,000 a year to park staff and maintenance costs.
But county officials are countering with an offer to contribute $25,000, not in cash, but with labor.

“We offer to supply office clerks,” wrote BOC chairman Anthony Dove in a Nov. 16 letter to Georgia DNR director Becky Kelley. “We would like to operate the office and would like for this to be an in-kind part of our supplement. We would offer maintenance help also as part of in-kind supplement. Other items on the table for in-kind would be, but not limited to, law enforcement and/or trash pick-up.”

Dove also requested that park reservations be extended through November “because November is the third largest month for equestrian use.”

The chairman said he received an e-mail this week from Kelley that she had received his letter.

“She said they got it and that they’ll look at it,” said Dove, who added that he has spoken with Oglethorpe County officials, who expressed interest in helping with the park.
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#1 Virginia Moss on 12/13/11 at 10:14 AM [Reply]
In-kind support is outside-the-box thinking. Chairman Dove is getting good at this sort of thing. If Oglethorpe County will contribute equally, we can make this work.
#2 wake-up on 12/13/11 at 01:17 PM [Reply]
How will it become a hub for criminal activity? There's not copper down there.

Dove and the rest of his clowns need to wake up. Madison County, all of Madison County, ALREADY IS a hub for criminal activity!!! Every day property is stolen, someone's HVAC is destroyed by copper crackheads, meth and property crime are all over this county.

And while the meth-heads run rampant, what are Dove, Thomas, Youngblood and the other clowns worried about? A park. A PARK!?!?

Wake up, idiots! Watson Mill is probably the one place where there is no crime, because there is precious little down there TO STEAL!

Get your heads out of your behinds...there ALREADY IS A TON OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY ALL OVER MADISON COUNTY while you guys pussyfoot around about A PARK!!!
#2.1 Ms.K on 12/14/11 at 02:14 PM [Reply]
Apparently, you are not aware of all the drug deals going on there. Just because there is this story in the paper does not mean that the commissioners are not concerned about the rest of the county. Perhaps Dove is concerned that the park will attract druggies from all over the county as an easy place to conduct business and, therefore, become a "hub". It seems your rude rant is unjustified since the commission is demonstrating its concern for crime all over madison County.

Maybe you should get some sleep and wake up on a better side of your bed instead of calling for others, who are wide awake, to wake up.
#3 Redneck on 12/13/11 at 01:59 PM [Reply]
How about leasing Park to say 50 hunters where on certain weekends shot gun only for deer and rest of deer season bow only. Give decals to those leasing and if DNR checks vehicles will know who is there and this also will keep out druggies.
#3.1 Ms.K on 12/14/11 at 02:37 PM [Reply]
So nice to read a solution instead of rude put-downs and negativity. There sure is a lot of anger in this county.

I'm not a hunter, but I'm pretty sure you don't shoot deer with a shotgun; you need an absolutely sure shot to the heart to avoid an inhumane death, both for rifle and bow. Since it is a public park, you can't close it to a select few, but culling the deer would be a good idea, especially if I coul get hold of some venison.
#3.1.1 Resident Redneck on 12/16/11 at 12:00 PM [Reply]
Ms.K- Nice thought BUT CAN HUNT DEER WITH A SHOTGUNbaby you are wrong? YOU you have to use slugs OR Buck shotCAN HUNT DEER WITH A SHOTGUN but you have to use Slugs OR Buck shot and sure you won't get the same distance as you do from a high powered rifle BUT it is legal as long as you don't use bird shot? Alot of hunting land you CAN ONLY USE shotguns? And while a shot to the heart or Lungs would be the perfect shot you don't always hit the heart?
#3.1.1.1 Virginia Moss on 12/17/11 at 05:09 PM [Reply]
Then don't take the shot! Or get a laser scope if you're that inaccurate. And, please, stop yelling.
#3.1.1.1.1 Resident Redneck on 12/18/11 at 09:00 PM [Reply]
Virginia- You missed my point toatlly. Ms.K said she was sure you couldn't shoot Deer with a shotgun? AND I informed her YES you can with the right shells and in some counties or on some special hunts that's all you can use, just like on some land all you can hunt with is a bow.
#3.1.1.1.1.1 Virginia Moss on 12/20/11 at 08:02 PM [Reply]
No, I did not; I responded to your last sentence. Ms.K stated that she was pretty sure (not completely sure) of her statement:"I'm not a hunter, but I'm pretty sure you don't shoot deer with a shotgun;...." It would have been lovely of you to simply offer your information as a teachable moment. Instead, you yelled at everyone reading as if to say how totally stupid and arrogant and wrong Ms.K was. Please don't yell; it makes you appear very angry.
#3.1.1.1.1.1.1 Resident Redneck on 12/20/11 at 11:18 PM [Reply]
Virginia- And I informed Ms. K that you or her or whoever wants to can hunt with a shotgun. AND furthermore WHY would I want to teach any of you ANYTHING all you all want to do is make fun of how I talk OR type? And putting all capital letters is not yelling it is like putting the words in bold print but the computer does not have an option where you can type in bold print. And I am angry because yall can't just read the post yall have to say Oh he hurt my feelings because he yelled at me. but if you people keep on fussing about my capital letters I am going to write a whole post in them big ol letters?
#3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Virginia Moss on 12/22/11 at 05:22 PM [Reply]
I found your post informative (assuming it is true) once I got past the negatives like "baby you are wrong?" and all the yelling. I suspect you have lots to offer here; it's just so uninviting and difficult to read your commentary that I often can't appreciate what you have to say.

Precisely because most internet sites are limited in word processing options, in the lexicon of internet language, capital letters have been universally accepted as shouting. I understand you want to emphasize certain words as you would in speech, but capitalized words are shouting which is rude and uncalled for in civilized society whether spoken or written. Instead of emphasizing words, make your words or sentences strong with clarity and reason.
#3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Resident Redneck on 12/23/11 at 12:37 AM [Reply]
Virginia- Darling I am so sorry if I offended you and yelled at you I didn't mean to because that was not what I was trying to do? Forgive me? And I hope you are not calling the society in which we live civilized? Because it is far from it.
#3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Virginia Moss on 12/23/11 at 03:36 PM [Reply]
With that nice post, of course you are forgiven. Compared to many societies around the world, ours is quite civilized and we need to keep it that way as much as possible. We just can't give up or quit trying, can we?
#3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Resident Redneck on 12/23/11 at 08:58 PM [Reply]
Virginia- Thank You and compared to other societies around the world I guess ours does look civilized but it is a long way from perfect and we know we can't give up but sometimes it feels like all our trying is doing no good.
#3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2 Ben Had on 12/24/11 at 11:05 AM [Reply]
Good work, Ms. Moss.
I feel like I've been watching the redneck version of "My Fair Lady".

It's coming along nicely.
#3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1 Virginia Moss on 12/24/11 at 10:25 PM [Reply]
Just takes patience and psychology.
#3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.2 Resident Redneck on 12/25/11 at 03:44 AM [Reply]
Ben Had- But the Redneck version of "My Fair Lady" is called "A Good Redneck Woman". I am a Redneck, my "ol lady" is a Redneck, my kids are Rednecks. We just one big ol redneck family. I haver never seen My Fair Lady But I have seen "Cops" are they close to being the same thing? Is there any shooting, Do they blow stuff up?
#3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.2.1 Ben Had on 12/26/11 at 03:18 PM [Reply]
Too funny. No, it's not like "cops" at all.
Actually, I'm impressed with your improved writing skills (not that I'm much better) as a result of Ms. Moss' coaching skills.
Keep it up, you're much easier to read and not nearly as dramatic.

Sounds like you have a great family.
#3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.2.1.1 Resident Redneck on 12/26/11 at 06:19 PM [Reply]
Ben Had- It must be a girly movie? I don't get into them. I like the action and drama the shows I like to watch are like "American Hoggers","Cops","Forensic Files","Storage Wars","Hard Core Pawn", and "Call of the Wild Man"(which my wife swears is related to me since I am from Tennessee and he is from KY)But as a Redneck family we don't involve the law in our problems we figure out a way to handle it our self?
To be honest I like Kip Thomas and he has done wonders for Madison Co. but what this County needs is an Old school Redneck HillBilly Sheriff with the Old time chain gangs? One where when you break the law in his county your butt will be on this chain gang picking up trash on the side of the road or doing an honest days work with picks and shovels?
#3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.2.2 Virginia Moss on 12/26/11 at 03:43 PM [Reply]
Now that is funny! Thanks for the laugh and Happy New Year.
#3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.3 Really Civilized? on 12/27/11 at 08:05 AM [Reply]
Lets see how civilized we are:
Over i million babies a year killed before seeing the light of day. Going on for 20+ years.

for those babies that are born just weeks after birth they are put in day orphanages where an ever changing number of care givers "raises" the child.

The vote buyers(politicians) then put large numbers of people in institutionalized housing and tell them they are better off than working for something better. They live amongst squalor not much better if any than 3rd world conditions...oh except for the cell phones, cable tv, etc.

In any given location people are fighting over shoes, killing people for $10 hits of meth/crack, etc.

Yea we are way ahead of the other countries of the world.
#3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.3.1 Mirror on 12/29/11 at 08:48 AM [Reply]
I guess looking in the mirror wasn't too purty a sight was it?

When I see how covetous people are of stuff, divorce rate over 50%, politicians lying to the people they are supposed to serve, I see animal behavior not civilized behavior.

Imagine a world where the greater good is pursued by all in all of their behavior. No debt, transparency in all dealings and no entitlements. That mirror would show a great image.
#3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.3.1.1 Ms.K on 12/30/11 at 12:44 AM [Reply]
This post reminds me of a lovely Beatles song from long ago, "Imagine". If it hasn't happened by now, it's not going to. Human beings are permanently flawed. I guess we have to keep trying, though.
#3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.3.1.1.1 Missy on 12/30/11 at 10:59 AM [Reply]
My flaw K is that I work 2 jobs to make end meet. Maybe those not working should apply to Wal Mart if they can pass drug screen and work. Flawed are those living off others with pride that work hard for there money.
#3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.3.1.1.1.1 Ms.K on 12/30/11 at 10:30 PM [Reply]
I'm confused; why do you think that working two jobs makes you flawed as a human being? Don't know your situation, but 2 parttime jobs equal one fulltime job so you would seem to be doing OK. If you mean 2 fulltime jobs, that's your choice. When I started my business, I worked, on average, 16 hour days and nights, seven days a week with no vacation for 7 years. Was I flawed? It was my choice to build something for my future. I didn't hold myself out to others as being put upon or as a selfless hero. I simply did what I finally had an opportunity to do and I met the challenge. I've had a wonderful 34 year career and made more money than I ever thought possible.

Don't worry about what a few lazy folks are doing or not doing. Look after your own welfare for your own future. Your reward will be power over your own life and it won't matter what anybody else thinks.
#3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.3.1.1.1.2 Hardhead on 01/01/12 at 04:36 PM [Reply]
k do you or have u ever worked 2 jobs ?
#3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.3.1.1.1.2.1 Ms.K on 01/02/12 at 01:35 PM [Reply]
If you are responding to Ms.K, please read the post above. I worked night and day for many years, jumping when my clients said "jump", without any break. Like many business owners, I ran my health into the ground working every minute of every day of the week all year long for 7 years to build my business. After that, I worked more reasonably (an average of 10 hour days, 6 days a week) still with no vacation time for the next 20 years. I have been adequately rewarded. You get out of life what you put into it.
#3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.3.1.1.2 Barry Goldwater on 12/30/11 at 06:47 PM [Reply]
I would say the human form is flawed. the unfortunate part is the ego overrides the Being in each human form. If people would live from the Being then we could achieve all that is promised.
#4 Resident Redneck on 12/13/11 at 09:08 PM [Reply]
Wait a minute Thm commissioners say if the park is neglected it will become a hub for criminal activity? Have they not been to the park? It already is a hub for criminal activity and if the commissioners think just because Madison County gets control of the park it is going to change and become a family park where birds flutter around your head and rabbits come up and eat out of your hand they are either stupid or lost in a fairy tale some where in wonderland playing with Alice.
#4.1 Anon on 12/14/11 at 08:12 AM [Reply]
Why can not the DNR wardens of Madison County patrol this area instead of watching for college kids and hemp on broad river.
#4.1.1 Resident Redneck on 12/14/11 at 02:48 PM [Reply]
Anon- Because that was a problem that some other citizen complained about so they said put them there BUT they may move them IF the citizen who first complained about Broad river starts complaining about the park? I don't know who this citizen is BUT they must have some money or PULL in the county?
#4.1.1.1 Anon on 12/23/11 at 10:10 AM [Reply]
who is that person : give us a hint as I have no idea.
#4.1.1.1.1 Resident Redneck on 12/23/11 at 08:44 PM [Reply]
Anon- I don't know either but they have to either have money or alot of pull?
#4.2 Virginia Moss on 12/14/11 at 02:29 PM [Reply]
Maybe the park has crime because Madison County did not have control over it. Perhaps, if the county gets in there, they would be more inclined to "clean up Dodge" as it were. Would you like to have a family park to go to? Do you really think the county is incapable of fighting crime? Rather than denegrating the commissioners, why not show support for their efforts or at least offer an alternative solution for whatever it is you want?

BTW, your post is very readable with proper question marks even (just one period missing and an inconsequential typo). I didn't even recognize it as yours.
#4.2.1 Resident Redneck on 12/16/11 at 12:13 PM [Reply]
Virginia- Wait a minute.You said "Maybe the Park has crime because Madison County did not have control over it". Let me ask you a question. Does Madison County have crime? Do you really think if Madison Co. gets control over the park the crime will stop? There has always been crime in Madison Co. and there will always be crime in Madison Co. even if they move the whole Sheriffs Dept. to Watson Mill park. People are going to always think they can get one over on the system?
#5 Ben Had on 12/14/11 at 08:48 AM [Reply]
Dove has a ton of horse riders screaming in his ear that's weakened his ability to think straight.
The squeaky wheel...or hoof.

Bet these same riders complain about big government and taxes out of the other side of their mouths.
#5.1 Redneck on 12/14/11 at 01:44 PM [Reply]
Complaining about government again and yet I recall your family benefited from land buys and good ole FDR. Your last sentence fits you well in my view. No response required there Ben to this post.
#5.1.1 Ben Had on 12/16/11 at 05:40 AM [Reply]
Yeah, I bet you don't want me to respond to your nonsense. Does mommie and daddy know you're on their computer again?
#6 Resident Redneck on 12/14/11 at 02:41 PM [Reply]
AND how much you wanna bet that when Madison Co. gets control of the park the price to reserve anything at the park will go up? AND if they can put up an admissions booth they will start charging you to go into the park because some people don't pay the parking fees and get the parking pass? AND to patrol the entire park to stop the criminal activity they will have to put HALF of the sheriff's deputies there? Just one or two officers won't be able to do it.
#7 Anonymous on 12/15/11 at 10:50 AM [Reply]
If Anthony Dove spent as much time worrying about the real crime going on right now all over Madison County as he does worrying about a POTENTIAL crime that MIGHT happen someday at Watson Mill, well, we might not have the same people committing property crime after property crime, unchecked, and always let out on probation to just go right back to stealing OUR STUFF!
#7.1 Redneck on 12/19/11 at 04:25 PM [Reply]
Crime started getting bad in Nash days in my view.
#7.1.1 Resident Redneck on 12/20/11 at 01:16 AM [Reply]
Redneck- The crime may have started getting bad in Nash Days AND it hasn't stopped AND getting worse everyday?
#7.1.1.1 Redneck on 12/20/11 at 11:55 AM [Reply]
Not worse than in Nash day. MC legal system has decided to try to intervene more and catch people. I watch my speed now in MC and seeing less people exceed speed limit also.
#8 WaterDog on 12/21/11 at 01:18 PM [Reply]
What your county needs is an ole timey mean redneck sheriff who considers it his county, bad boys don't play around too much in those.
#8.1 Resident Redneck on 12/22/11 at 09:39 PM [Reply]
WaterDog- I agree with you 150%. BUT what most of these people want is a sheriff who will catch the bad boys who are breaking the law against them AS long as it ain't one of their family members then they want him to look the other way or slap them on the hand and say don't do that no more? We need a sheriff like Buford Pusser? BUT more than that WE need a court system, a DA, and a Judge that will put these people in prison when they go to court? I can see probation and fines on the first offense but the same people get arrested over and over again. When a man gets arrested for the same thing 4 or 5 times ENOUGH IS ENOUGH he AIN'T GOING TO LEARN lock his butt up.
#8.1.1 Virginia Moss on 12/23/11 at 01:27 AM [Reply]
What ever happened to that "three strikes and you're out" thing Georgia implemented some years ago?
#8.1.1.1 Resident Redneck on 12/23/11 at 10:54 AM [Reply]
Virginia- I guess the three strikes and your out rule don't apply to Madison County?
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