OPINION: A paranoid and insane view of the future

Mark Beardsley

OPINION: A paranoid and insane view of the future

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Wednesday, January 30. 2013

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After nearly four decades in journalism, I considered myself adequately cynical and pessimistic. I’m negative about the economy (even in good times) and suspicious of government, particularly at the state and federal levels — a glass half empty type.

Turns out I was wrong. Compared to what I hear from discussions of possible avenues of preventing future mass shootings, I’m a blazing optimist.

I feel no need to own an AK 47, a Bushmaster or any other assault rifle. In fact, count me among those who think the sale of assault-style rifles should be banned. It never occurred to me that I’d need such a weapon to fend off hungry masses or to keep federal authorities from confiscating my other guns. In fact, though I realize strange things happen over the course of time, I don’t consider the odds of needing to brandish my .357 magnum revolver in self-defense to be high at all, with the likelihood of needing more than the six rounds it carries to be roughly similar to those of winning the Megamillions jackpot next Saturday.

Every day, a few people use guns in self-defense. More frequently, those guns are used irresponsibility in crimes, in anger and in despair (suicide). Keeping my gun loaded actually increases my danger, statistically.

That’s a chance I’m willing to take, but it turns out there are millions of citizens who expect to use their guns in self-defense, who worry about being attacked by virtual armies. They include people who expect to need sniper rifles, hundreds of rounds of ammunition and high-capacity magazines.

That’s paranoia. While I do not trust government to address global warming or resolve its debt crisis, I don’t toss and turn at night worrying that Homeland Security will batter down my door to take my gun away. I see no need to plan fields of fire to blow away the hoards of 47-percenters trying to redistribute my wealth or about the day when I will be forced to take on the U.S. Army in the next revolution. The Second Amendment doesn’t say I have to be in a militia or that my guns are to be used against government.

Assault weapons are designed to kill people — to assault them fatally. It’s scary to see so many people who expect to — or who hope to— kill others. If we start talking about mental health issues in the wake of the Sandy Hook school shooting, the first people we need to look at are those who believe they need an assault weapon. Who are they planning to assault? They’re the last people who should have any gun from a mental health standpoint.

The people who bear watching are the people so fearful and paranoid that they’re stockpiling weapons and the people who “need” high-powered, high-capacity assault weapons.

But hey, maybe that’s just me, too darned optimistic.

Mark Beardsley is editor of The Commerce News, a sister paper of The Madison County Journal.

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#1 Ben Had on 01/30/13 at 04:57 AM [Reply]

Took the words right out of my mouth.
It's good to know there are still some sane people around here.
If you think you need an assualt weapon,you have mental health issues and should be denied ownership.

#1.1 American Patriot on 02/23/13 at 11:08 AM [Reply]

Mind blowing speech by Robert Welch in 1958 predicting On you tube .

#2 Tao on 01/30/13 at 02:15 PM [Reply]

Yes you are too darn optimistic. The history books are full of governments who turn on their people. Most have socialist or communist countries. So look at where our country is headed with honesty and you may reconsider your needs to protect your family and neighbors.

#2.1 Virginia Moss on 01/31/13 at 11:05 PM [Reply]

"The people who bear watching are the people so fearful and paranoid that they’re stockpiling weapons and the people who “need” high-powered, high-capacity assault weapons."

So if I do reconsider that I do have a need to protect my family and neighbors, what is it that I am protecting them from? Armed drones? Carpet bombs. Truck-mounted missile-launchers? Nuclear bombs? Chemical weapons of mass destruction? Poisons in the public drinking water? My little assault rifle seems rather trivial under those circumstances.

Maybe your paranoia is a mental illness that should keep guns out of your hands. Such thinking reminds me a little of the crazy guy holded up with the little boy he dragged off the school bus and is holding in a bunker to keep the "government" from getting him. With all his guns and ammo, he's using a little kid to protect him from the boogie man. Your reasoning is very flawed.

#2.1.1 Citizen on 02/12/13 at 10:32 AM [Reply]

Virginia is this the kind of crap you were teaching our kids in school ?
Its no surprise to me that the tail now wags the dog.

#3 sovrncitzn on 02/01/13 at 06:18 AM [Reply]

Wow what a lemming. How can you have such blind trust in the Government? Funny while people like you and ben had say that the people don't need the weapons of war, our police departments, sheriffs offices ect... are arming up with tanks, drones, attack copters, .50 cal machine guns and on and on. So tell me why our CIVILIAN police forces are gunning up so heavy? Our constitution and bill of rights are under constant attack By this administration and previous administrations of both parties. I know you will make the argument "How are you going to fight against tanks and drones with small arms?" How is that working out for the Taliban? We cant get out of their fast enough, we are just trying to find a way out and save face. Oh and we need to make sure that heroin continues to flow freely. Look back at history who are the Governments and people who have tried to disarm populations in the past? Any new gun laws especially a national registry or universal background checks is a pretext to confiscation. Hey ben had I would love to see you come take it but, you want you will let some poor cop do it. Let me tell you a little secret the cops for the most part are not going to do this. Looks like you will have to suit up and do it yourself. I am tired of all the talk put your money where your mouth is.

#3.1 double B on 02/19/13 at 09:32 AM [Reply]

You are losing your mind. Even if you wanted to stand up to the government they have the people of this country so divided they will never be able to agree long enough to stand up and have a chance. This country is controlled by the media and 3 men own every TV station and major news outlet in this country. This is the only country people believe the news ask a russian if they ever believed anything on the news. It's in our DNA to believe it since the revolutionary war we have been suckers for propaganda. In the 80s Johnny Carson went on TV and said there was a shortage of Toilet paper and 3 days later there was a shortage because people made one. Americans are sheep.

#4 Daniel on 02/01/13 at 09:38 PM [Reply]

"Assault weapons are designed to kill people — to assault them fatally."

All guns are designed to "assault them fatally".
Never heard of a "maiming" or "wounding" gun. Come on editor, get a grip.
Editor, keep fighting against the Constitution, the will of the people, common sense and not to mention common logic....
I beg of ANY of the gun control advocates to accurately define "assault weapon"

#5 Sad State of Affairs. on 02/04/13 at 11:02 AM [Reply]

They are entitled to their opinion.
Its quite obvious some are so afraid to bite the hand that feeds them. Even if its laced with poison. A retired teacher or on the government dole. Slaves and they don't even know it. Quite arrogant also not to mention their ignorance to believe the lies being fed to them from wherever they are getting their information . If that's what you want to call it. Brainwashed by the information ministry or cable news and lame street media.
Assault weapons that every branch of Government and Law enforcement have and some of them are more than willing to use them on us. Remember Katrina ? Maybe they just want to keep theirs for target practice and hunting too.
Its a good thing we have some in Law enforcement and government who are fighting back against these assaults on our liberty and freedom ! Those are the ones I will be fighting with when and if it hits the fan.
I know I have personally seen the carnage in my neighborhood by those breaking in to steal for drug money and killing with those assault weapons . Haven't all of you ? I was being factious. I have been around 50 years and with common sense and logic know for a fact that's a lie. You watch something over and over and even if you start out not believing in it, before long you will. That's called brainwashing
Law abiding responsible gun owners will be the only ones who will comply . The criminals and mentally disturbed will not comply , period. Then once they have their list just like in several other countries they will come to collect those guns. i.e. Canada , Australia, etc. etc. The list is longer look it up yourself.
This all reminds me of a story from Nazi Germany . When they came for the Catholics I said nothing because I was not one . When they came for the Jews I said nothing because I was not one.
When they came for me nobody was left to stand up for me. What will you stand up for ?

#6 Jon on 02/04/13 at 11:29 AM [Reply]

but it turns out there are millions of citizens who expect to use their guns in self-defense, who worry about being attacked by virtual armies. They include people who expect to need sniper rifles, hundreds of rounds of ammunition and high-capacity magazines.

That’s paranoia.

Is this why so many government agencies and our military have them Mr Beardsley ? If that so called paranoid scenario was to come about and I certainly hope it does not. How would you suggest people defend themselves against it?
If the founders had not used weapons would you even have the right to say that today?
Human nature has not changed. Nor have governments.
How are the Egyptians doing with their fight against tyranny without firearms?
As Thom Hartmann from FSTV so ridiculously stated they were passive and with just a few hundred dead under Mubarak they won their Independence.
Really ? Whats he high on?
They are still fighting 2 years later. Now they have the Muslim Brotherhood taking over and showing that they are even worse. Obama wanting to send them far more destructive weapons that we are all paying for to be used against them.
I can only say I hope you are right rather then naive.
What about the freedoms our military and our youth and wealth being spent on.
You keep hearing its to defend our freedom and liberty yet historically we have lost more of it during war times over the past century then at any other time in our history. Its never about whats being said but rather about the actions they take.

#7 John Fulford on 02/04/13 at 05:05 PM [Reply]

After reading this article I am left feeling uncertain about who might be the one that has a paranoid and insane outlook on the future here.

but it turns out there are millions of citizens who expect to use their guns in self-defense, who worry about being attacked by virtual armies. They include people who expect to need sniper rifles, hundreds of rounds of ammunition and high-capacity magazines.

Only a paranoid insane person would say or write this . I have never even met one of those millions and I know plenty of good descent people who own a wide variety of firearms. Who know the truth about history and why we were given the Second Amendment Right.

My god man pull it together your making yourself look like a fool here.

That’s paranoia. While I do not trust government to address global warming or resolve its debt crisis, I don’t toss and turn at night worrying that Homeland Security will batter down my door to take my gun away. I see no need to plan fields of fire to blow away the hoards of 47-percenters trying to redistribute my wealth or about the day when I will be forced to take on the U.S. Army in the next revolution. The Second Amendment doesn’t say I have to be in a militia or that my guns are to be used against government.

The army will never go along with this . They are us .

I will say this you got one thing right . The Second Amendment does not say you have to do anything . That would be your choice .

If our government ever got that bad the Army would be the first to respond against it. After all they are our army with the task of defending the people of this country . They don't belong to the government do they ?
I'm left speechless. For those who know me , that's not an easy task.

#7.1 anon on 02/06/13 at 05:10 AM [Reply]

Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.

During the riots in Los Angeles following the Rodney King verdict, thousands of rounds of ammunition were needed over the course of a very few days to defend individual storefronts from the looters.

And "zombie apocalypse" refers to the people who will be wandering the street following a disaster, natural or man-made. When you can't run to Kroger every couple of days, food runs out. Hungry people don't stay hungry for long.

Remember the Boy Scout motto, "Be Prepared".

#7.2 Ben Had on 02/07/13 at 05:42 AM [Reply]

"If our government ever got that bad the Army would be the first to respond against it. After all they are our army with the task of defending the people of this country . They don't belong to the government do they?"

Things may have changed, but when I was in the military you definitely belonged to the gov't, not the people. Soldiers are gov't property.

Our gov't is set up in such a way that the military could not go against and overthrow the leadership. We do not have a single person dictatorship, which is susceptable to a Coup d'état by military leaders wishing to overthrow and replace them.

Furthermore, our soldiers would not fight against their own gov't just because some General or Admiral suggested it. A more likely outcome would be the Gen or Adm would be shot on sight for treason, along with any others that agreed tp participate.

#7.2.1 John Fulford on 02/07/13 at 04:53 PM [Reply]

You've Ben Had alright. What oath did you take at the MEPS center when you joined ? I remember what oath I took.

The Government owns nothing we the people own all of it including their behinds whether they like it or not . Regardless of your confusion.

With all due respect you have it all wrong as many do and perhaps that's the problem.

I have read nothing in our founding documents that even remotely suggest any of what you just said is true.

Read the Declaration Of Independence and study the Constitution and The Federalist Papers . Its all about We The People and limiting the power of the Government . Having a form of Government that protects our rights not one that tries to take them away because they know we are tired of their crap. Its not We The Government and they own us and everything around us . Even though that,s how they seem to act these days .
By all means you are delusional. You might want to read up on it a little more before you open your mouth and remove all doubt .

If you are suggesting that they would turn on the people then perhaps we should all be packing away our weapons and keeping our powder dry . You aren't suggesting that are you Ben?

#7.2.2 John Fulford on 02/07/13 at 04:55 PM [Reply]

#7.2.3 Virginia Moss on 02/07/13 at 05:20 PM [Reply]

There was some kind of law, ruling or something passed recently, maybe by the United Nations or just our own government, that says military personnel are required to disabey orders if they think to obey is wrong or violates the rules of war. So this reduces the chances that the military would turn on it's own people.

Yeah, I know; "rules of war" is an oxymoron of the highest order. Like they say, all's fair in love and war.

#7.2.4 John Fulford on 02/08/13 at 09:04 AM [Reply]

Where on earth does one come up with such delusional thoughts Ben. You are suggesting exactly what Mark Beardsley is saying that makes people paranoid and insane. Would you be suggesting that our military would attack the citizens.
That,s a scary thought in itself to think there were and actually people who are in our military being paid for by us and that they might possible think the way you do. What was the oath you took at the MEPS Center ?

#8 James on 02/07/13 at 08:58 PM [Reply]

“The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.
― Thomas Jefferson
Now if I am not mistaken Ben Had is saying the government would use the military against the people. The that would only prove that maybe those people aren't so paranoid or insane. If Ben can think it then so could someone else .

#9 SardonicVeracity on 02/07/13 at 11:06 PM [Reply]

I feel no need to own a scary looking rifle either...which is what you really say when you say "assault style rifle." I, however, will gladly defend the Constitutionally guaranteed right of others to possess scary looking rifles...this right that "shall not be infringed."

As every American, you are entitled to your freedom of belief. As an editor of a small newspaper, you are free to share that belief on a wider scale than most people. Fortunately, this is another constitutionally guaranteed right.

However, what you or I believe about any person's reasoning for choosing to possess scary looking weapons is not germane to the discussion of changing the US Constitution or infringing any of the rights guaranteed therein.

Fault finding in the opinions of others by way of an ad hominem argument does not aid in the presentation of your own beliefs for consideration. Contrary to norms that have been set by political discourse, learned people do not win arguments by using an "I am less insane than the person who holds an opposing viewpoint."

#10 John Fulford on 02/08/13 at 09:02 AM [Reply]

#11 Marine on 02/10/13 at 02:17 PM [Reply]

I don't know where people come up with such crazy ideas. However I do know that the oath I took at the MEPS center as anybody enlisting for military service has to take , was to defend the Constitution and the people of the United States against foreign or domestic threat. My Father also took this same oath back when he joined to serve during the Korean War . I will say there are some in our military who do not understand this and think the way Ben Had thinks. Look back to Kent State and what happened their because of someone who had this same misconception . Now in boot camp that's exactly what they tell you . That's just boot camp brainwashing noting more . If I am ask to give my life in defense of those freedoms I sure hope that while I am away fighting for them in a foreign land that Patriotic citizens will protect them at home. I love my nation and its citizens and would never raise arms against it or them . If ever ask to do so I would outright refuse to comply . Rest assured that my brothers in arms would do the same . Semper fi and God Bless the United States.

#11.1 Ben Had on 02/12/13 at 05:30 AM [Reply]

I guess you or mr Ful-of-it never heard of any soldiers being referred to as gov't property.
I remember two guys that were too sun-burned to report for duty, and both were wrote up for Destruction of Gov't property. Their backs were Gov't property.

Seriously, you believe soldiers could turn against their superiors and start an uprising? Either things have changed dramatically since I was in the Navy, or someone besides me is delusional.

#11.1.1 John on 02/14/13 at 04:20 PM [Reply]

Slavery was abolished a long time ago and yes I have heard of such silly claims before. However that is absolutely not true because no entity
Government or otherwise can own another human being .
That would and is in direct violation of the law . Now the UCMJ is a little different but that is military protocol and is more a standard of professionalism in how military personnel are required to keep their appearances and take care of themselves. You believe what you want to believe . I have no desire to continue this absurd argument and to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed person. Sovrncitzn why waste your time trying to reason with unreasonable people. I would also like to congratulate you on the valid points . Ben I hate that you have to live in fear of your Government the way you do . That's a truly sad day in our country.

#11.2 Ben Had on 02/12/13 at 05:50 AM [Reply]

Delusions of grandeur.
"to defend the Constitution and the people of the United States against foreign or domestic threat."
What exactly do you believe a "domestic" threat is? Do you think it's the gov't? No, it's some idiot or group of idiots that think they can stand against the gov't with their assualt rifles and boxes of ammo.
The gov't would crush you in a matter of seconds, and turn your home into a crater that would stand as a reminder of what can happen to those with similar ideas.

What would happen even if several states and their armed citizens decideded they wanted to break away and fight against the "tyranny"?
See: Lincoln.

#11.2.1 sovrncitzn on 02/12/13 at 07:00 PM [Reply]

How did small arms work out for the Taliban? We cant get out of there fast enough Just like the soviets. This little country has been invaded by almost every empire and have never been conquered. Why did Hitler choose not to invade the Swiss? Why did the japanese rule out a ground invasion of the continental United States? And who defeated the japanese military with small arms in Alaska? The government would not crush us in a matter of second's. Is this the same Government that couldn't even hold Baghdad? You mean the same government that crushed the Vietcong? Maybe the same Government that can't even stop unarmed illegal aliens from crossing the border. I think it is you who have delusions of grandeur. Look what ONE man has been able to do to the LAPD. I fear the Government, but I am not scared of the Government. Oh and yes if you are a soldier you are Government property just like a Humvee or Apache. If you get a tattoo and it get infected you are charged with destruction of Government property that may have changed by now but I was an M.P. and that use to be the charge. But you were in the Navy:)

#11.2.2 Mac44reasons on 02/15/13 at 05:31 AM [Reply]

u sure have ben had ! this arrogant, upitty, bloated mindset , with all its politically correct trimmings,sadly,will vanish the likes of "you" , and those who care to join in on your ignorant mindset! our current goverment,with all its luster and "poor me" offerings , is "EXACTLY" why i choose to own certain tools of defense ! citizens such as yourself, is a pathetic "mirror image of the product currently being mfg. by our dumb downed society! if it was not for my grandchildren, i almost would enjoy watching todays lovely,liberal "general public" get exactly and "everything" they hope for ! the 2nd amendment remains silent, and in most cases, does exactly what it needs to without action. "BUT", when @## rangers such as you, the media,hollywood and gov. its'self , continue to trample and disect its "simple" terms, you leave "ZERO" options on the table. once wizards like yourself finally come to terms with , the "ONLY" force strong enough to defeat the american people , is "the american people", maybe your attitude will change when its "YOU" that gets the call to rally and confiscate ! do you actually think a government or l.e , s.e.i.u, a.c.o.r.n, moveon.org. , soros, the t.s.a.(lmao), nato forces, e.t.c all piled into barrys lil tiny "police force" will actually have the cherries???? that joke would last about 2 to 3 neighborhoods !!! so ! it is simple math ! if u want a "big", bad , scary government protecting you, "MOVE" !!!! if u want "we the people" back at the helm , then do some homework. stop watching m.s.n.b.c. ...you might just realize why you, or "ANY" clown administration, the U.N., law enforcement, or even bloomberg himself, , will "NEVER" succeed in silencing the only amendment that allows all others to exist !!! "PERIOD" !!!

#11.2.2.1 Joe Christmas on 02/15/13 at 02:37 PM [Reply]

Holy Mac! Please take a breath. Puncuation is your friend. They have adult grammar classes at Athens Tech. Relax and take your meds.

#11.2.2.2 Virginia Moss on 02/16/13 at 12:11 AM [Reply]

Wow! Just ............ Wow!

#11.2.3 Crazy Horse on 02/18/13 at 08:03 AM [Reply]

Amazing! So if I am to understand what you and Miss Moss are saying Ben , that the government would attack American citizens ,then isn't that exactly the reason this article called those same people paranoid and crazy. If what you suggest was even remotely true ,I would have to say perhaps they aren't paranoid or crazy at all are they ?

#11.2.4 John on 02/18/13 at 08:12 AM [Reply]

Well to be quite honest with you Ben Had I would have to say that the biggest
domestic threat to our liberty and Constitution today is our Federal Government and people who think the way you do. I suspect you are more afraid of losing your meal ticket that they provide to you with our tax dollars. I would like to request that you restrain yourself from such childish name calling in the future if you are intelligent enough to do so .

#11.2.4.1 Ben Had on 02/19/13 at 04:23 PM [Reply]

John, I paid about $50k in taxes for 2012,so your meal ticket comment is about as far from the truth as is possible.
All of you John Wayne wannabes are about as clueless as it gets.
My point is: All of this big, stupid talk about arming yourselves against the gov't is just a bunch of BS! Talk about to your ignorant,like-minded friends if you must, but spare me your ridculous fantasies.
Rebellion against a gov't perceived to be tyrannical has already happened in this country once,and at a time when the gov't wasn't much better armed than the ragtag rebels that fought against it. The rebels (we) lost.
It wouldn't take four years for the gov't to defeat an uprising in the present day, it wouldn't take four weeks. And those of you that think soldiers would turn against the gov't are just plain stupid. If any did, they would be turned into quick examples, probably by their fellow comrades.
Reality, friends. You need to try it.

#11.2.4.1.1 Virginia Moss on 02/20/13 at 07:46 PM [Reply]

You've already filed your tax return? I'm sooo envious. I havent' even started on mine. Thanks for keep on trying to enlighten us here, as pointless as it may seem. It's an opportunity for all posters to get outside their circle of friends, family and co-workers and hear what others are saying and thinking. Maybe even think outside the box sometimes.

#11.2.4.1.2 John on 02/21/13 at 04:03 PM [Reply]

You just don't see it do you Ben ?
Look around you and see whats happening
out in the real world today. Keep telling yourself its all ok.
With all do respect its that kind of thinking that allowed this country to become what is today . Just keep paying that big money you keep talking about and before long you want have any left either. You cant live in the past but you sure might want to learn from it so you don't keep making the same mistakes. You just cant talk to anyone who has an objective point of view without trying to belittle someone can you? Does that make you feel like more of a man ? Whenever you want to engage in civil discourse look me up . Are you an Virginia related ?

That big bad government that cant even stop 11,000,000 unarmed people from entering our country illegally . is that the big bad government you are so afraid of ? You must surely die a thousand deaths but I will only die one.

#12 Doublebarrel on 02/17/13 at 12:01 AM [Reply]

Walk in any gun store at this very moment, or even Walm-Mart or Academy. Ammo is limited and actually rationed, believe it or not, at most stores. Check it out if you don't believe me! Firearms for sale are in short supply. Keep denying it if you want but citizens are rapidly and heavily arming themselves. Having a family member in a retail sporting goods business, the overwhelming majority of citizens express fear their rights will be infringed upon and they feel compelled to purchase a weapon(s) and ammo while they can. Another hot topic of conversation seems to be that people are very much concerned that the Gov't may try to tax ammunition excessively. Believer or non-believer, there are many people who strongly believe big brother is taking steps, and will take further action, to disarm the citizens (directly or indirectly). In closing, I have weapons and ammo and always have. I purchase ammo frequently to add to my stockpile and always have. I'm an avid sport-shooter and hunter but am clinging to the ammo now. I hope I never have to use mine for anything other than that.

#12.1 Ms.K on 02/17/13 at 03:42 PM [Reply]

And you fell for the firearms industry's fearmongering, hook, line and sinker, just as they had planned. What better way to sell more guns and make more profits? They aren't stupid! They know exactly the segment of the population to target; paranoia and fear sells big time, especially when you have a central organization to represent your interests everywhere.

#12.1.1 sovrncitzn on 02/19/13 at 01:47 PM [Reply]

So if a business can use fear to sell you a product. Would you say that government would use fear to deprive you of your rights? Or to drag us into a war? How do you feel about the government using violence to accomplish it's goals? Do you believe the state has a monopoly on force?

#13 USMC on 02/17/13 at 05:09 PM [Reply]

2nd amendment says "WELL REGULATED"...well, it's high time for the REGULATION to begin and finally it's here. If you don't like it you have 3 options: leave, we will put you in jail, or "make your stand" lol, and you'll get put in your place QUICK by our fine soldiers enforcing the regualtion called for in THE CONSTITUTION.

#13.1 sovrncitzn on 02/19/13 at 01:50 PM [Reply]

There's another option.

#13.2 Jim on 02/21/13 at 03:50 PM [Reply]

Good Luck Jarhead .

#13.3 sovrncitzn on 02/22/13 at 06:23 AM [Reply]

You couldn't even hold Baghdad. Bring it on. LOL

#13.4 Double D on 02/22/13 at 04:59 PM [Reply]

General James F. Amos . You might want to talk to him about that crap you are talking. You might find yourself as part of another Tarawa their Jarhead. Now I admire your courage but that's very bad judgement on your part.

#13.5 American Patriot on 02/23/13 at 12:45 PM [Reply]

You my friend are a traitor to America.
Should you attempt any of what you say . You will most definitely die a traitors death . I do admire your courage but that's piss poor judgement on your part. Hopefully we can restore America without violence but if not . I hope you are sure as to what side of this fight you want to be on .

#14 Paul on 02/21/13 at 04:28 PM [Reply]

I have a couple of questions to ask here. 1: what is it that people fear so much about others owning any type of firearm they choose? 2: What has our military been fighting for all around the globe over the past century ?

#14.1 sovrncitzn on 02/22/13 at 06:20 AM [Reply]

Good questions. What is really sad is now when soldiers come home, if they have "ptsd" they loose their second amendment. And homeland security now considers returning soldiers a greater threat than Al-CIAda. Notice how people like ben had and that coward usmc are itching to use the military on the American people. And notice how they claim they want to protect "children" yet they don't blink an eye when the government murders children. They say we are insane and paranoid, because we don't trust the government. As the government put's drones over us. Homeland security has purchased over one billion hollow point rounds. They now use training targets of pregnant women and children the targets are called NMH No More Hesitation. So when the government guns up stockpiles ammo your builds underground bases local LEO's get tanks and drones, and they practice killing us that's normal. But if you as a slave dare question or god forbid you have a scary looking gun you need to be taken out by the loving government.

#14.1.1 American Patriot on 02/23/13 at 12:00 PM [Reply]

Mind blowing speech by Robert Welch in 1958 on YouTube.Obama Signs NDAA Martial Law - YouTube. If you have a computer and want to be objective.
Rather than having a closed mind you might actually learn something . John Stewart Mills is another good source. We are not the enemy of one another or freedom. That which is used to divide and distract is the product of the enemy of us all.

#15 Ken on 02/21/13 at 06:24 PM [Reply]

America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.

Look around and ask yourself .

We call ourselves the Superior beings
yet we are the only beings to soil our nest.

As a house divided against itself cannot stand.

We are not bound to win, but We are bound to be true. We are not bound to succeed, but we are bound to live by the light that we have. We must stand with anybody that stands right, and stand with them while they are right, and part with them when they go wrong.
Be sure you put your feet in the right place, then stand firm.

#16 sovrncitzn on 02/24/13 at 02:05 PM [Reply]

The National Rifle Association has obtained a Department of Justice memo calling for national gun registration and confiscation. The nine page “cursory summary” on current gun control initiatives was not officially released by the Obama administration.
The DOJ memo states the administration “believes that a gun ban will not work without mandatory gun confiscation” and thinks universal background checks “won’t work without requiring national gun registration.” Obama has yet to publicly support national registration or firearms confiscation, although the memo reveals his administration is moving in that direction.
The memo stands in stark contrast to the administration’s public stance on so-called gun control. White House spokesman Jay Carney said last month that laws proposed by Obama would not “take away a gun from a single law-abiding American.”
The NRA declined to explain how it obtained the document. The memo was written by the acting director of the Justice Department’s National Institute of Justice, Greg Ridgeway. It is dated January 4, two weeks before Obama mounted his attack on the Second Amendment following the Sandy Hook massacre. Ridgeway came to the Justice Department from the RAND corporation.
The memo says universal background checks on firearms purchases may help the government push to control and eventually outlaw firearms, but it would lead to an increase in illegally purchased guns.
It pointed out that banning high capacity ammunition clips would be ineffective due to the fact there is a large number of them already in circulation.
A Justice Department official said the memo is an unfinished review of gun violence research and does not represent administration policy.

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